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Rocketlex
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(11/1/03 9:34 pm)
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Re: I know it's insensitive, but...
I kinda doubt it will come to that, VGX. Aside from the slight dip caused by the Bush administration, every year the world seems to become more and more conscious of the need to protect nature. The sky won't go black instantly, and nobody wants it to go black, so it seems to me like we would never let it get that far. Maybe I'm an optimist, but that's what I think.

-_- Man, I'm terrible and posting this kind of thing. I hope my arguement made some kind of sense.

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Unholy the Divine
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(11/3/03 12:46 am)
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Re: I know it's insensitive, but...
Rocketlex the sad part is not everyone tihnks like that. when the government put restrictions on cutting down rainforest trees the lumber mills pretty much bitched and complained. right now to produce electricity the plants burn coal. i dunno if anothoer way has been found or bing developed yet. Only recently the government took steps to stop the old factories of the 40 and 50's from poluting freshwater ponds, rives, creeks. it all comes down to the all mighty dollar and the people who invest in things like this will raise hell if someone tries to stop it.


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Chilton
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(11/6/03 3:34 am)
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Re: class
Just for the record, social class - lower, working, lower-middle, upper-middle, nouveau rich, upper - isn't about how much money you have, it's about your background, education, and things like that. For instance, many working-class people (tradesmen in highly unionized professions, say) make more money than many upper-middle-class ones (college professors, say). Social class and income level are somewhat related, but not mutually defining.

If you want to talk about class at all, really, it's extremely important to distinguish between the genuine upper class and the nouveau riche - essentially, being rich doesn't make you upper class - you're just rich, and that's that. Class, again, is not the same as income level. Social class, essentially, is in the details. Someone like Dennis Kozlowski, for example, was a centimillionaire (possibly a billionaire, I forget which), but was not upper class in the slightest, just nouveau rich.

The Kennedys are upper class (although some might argue that their Irishness excludes them), the Auchinclosses are upper class, the Mellons are upper class, etc. People who own potato-mansions/"starter" mansions/etc. in California are basically not - they might be rich, but not upper class. Just wanted to clear that up.

Similarly, if you want to know what "class" you are, the question is not what your parents make, but rather what they do - and were they college-educated, and who were their parents, etc. But really, perhaps it's better not to ask...Americans, comparatively within the world, are a blissfully class-free people - as opposed to, say, the caste-obsessed English. Our country affords many of us the opportunity to not even have a clue whether we are, say, upper-middle or lower-middle class, and that's fundamentally a good thing.


Anyway, as for this Video Gamer X - look, guy, folks with money are just like any other folk, in that hey're pretty all right when you get to know 'em.

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Paranoid Android
(11/6/03 3:54 am)
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Re: class
It has always been my understanding, and pardon me for the way I am describing the samantics, the word as used in American society not necessarily the world over, when associating Rich class, poor class, wealthy class, upper middle class, etc. we usually associate the word with wealth and financial prowess very easily, however in actuality it's not quite the case as this Chilton guy pointed out. Another meaning of the word is in fact the type of person you are, if you have "class" or not, etc or what level of education you have. In my common experience though I apply the American definition to what I was saying, however I inherantly know this is probably an incorrect label, just what people commonly use.

Now using your definition Chilton, what class am I?

My parents were both poor, they chose a life of hippydom during the late sixties and early seventies in lieu of college. Family life wasn't exactly the best, we got by and as I was growing up lived in a dead smack middle class 2 bedroom, 1 bath house in the center of suburban sprawl.

My parents couldn't afford to send me to college however made just a little too much for me to qualify for any government grants or low interest loans. I had a full time job since I was 16, but recently was layed off in February from a company where I made 53,000 last year selling consumer electronics.

I was in the gifted program in school, and tested with a very high IQ, as well I study a broad spectrum of information, and can talk for hours on many subjects most notably sciences, physics, technology, anthropology, sociology, psychology, astronomy, theology, geology, biology (but not medical science), mathematics, parapsychology, etc. I am an avid writer and have probably composed thousands of pages of material. I can draw rather well. I can build computers, and I develop websites as well as my own graphics and page layouts.

I also enguage myself in very esoteric activities of thought and spirituality with probable intertemporal or interdimensional communication that tie in with science and have a lot of apparent proofs in String or M-Theory.

I however do not attent religious services or ally myself with any one particular religion or doctrine devised or worshipped by man.

So I don't have a lot of money, however I'm very intelligent, and have a lot of things on my plate, but then I never went to college. What does that make me?



Chilton
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(11/6/03 4:00 am)
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Re: class
Archetypal lower-middle-class.

Intelligence has nothing to do with it - I'm sure you've noticed that there are plenty of upper class people who are dumb as shit, and plenty of brilliant people from lower classes.

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old man Toby
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(11/6/03 8:29 am)
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narcissus
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So I don't have a lot of money, however I'm very intelligent, and have a lot of things on my plate, but then I never went to college. What does that make me?


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Archetypal lower-middle-class


Archetypal lower-middle-class-internet-attention-whore

Maybe time and experience will allow you to alter your values such that kindness is more important than intelligence.


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