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I'm very skeptical of the information on that website as being correct, alliances with aliens, etc, however a lot of it does have some basis in truth and fact.
There are in fact several secret societies that are often associated with very high ranking politicians, like Masonic, and that "Skull and Bones" thing that some of the most influencial and controvertial people of our time were involved with. Our government was founded by Masons, Washington is designed to Masonic symbology, and even our Money and national symbols are entirely Masonic.
Yes there is SOMETHING going on at Area 51, and billions and billions of dollars of the federal budget go to black projects that they do not have to account to congress or anyone about, the money just disappears mysteriously and is never seen again. Most things that we find out that used to be black projects are actually about 30 years old from the time they were first in development to the time we're told about it, case in point stealth technology.
Something did crash in the desert on a ranch near Roswell New Mexico in 1947, and there were at least 100 witnesses involved with the debris, the alien bodies, the collection of the debris, and the subsequent cover up including death threats. It was indicated that no aliens survived the Roswell crash, as far as any other crashes and government recoveries, I have heard of no other official ones aside from what ever it was that happened in Bentwaters England, on a US base there in 1980.
The whole Majestic12 secret panel of government overmind (the guys who are involved in the conspiracy to cover up all information regarding alien visitation and UFO's) is currently a subject of a lot of controversy as to the legitamacy of the documents involved with Majestic12, they did not come out of the Freedom of Information Act, rather they were "given" to a few people by various individuals who worked in the intelligence community.
The government has denied all knowledge of Majestic12 and claims that the documents are bogus, however even if MJ12 is false, it doesn't even come close to negating the fact that the government spent officially on public record (Some docs avail through FOIA) billions of dollars on UFO research in projects SIGN, GRUDGE, and BLUEBOOK from the late 40's ending in 1969 with the condon committee report, officially it was advised to debunk all cases of UFO's even if they were reported by the most credible and quantity of witnesses. Although the government publically closed the book on UFO study, it continued the research behind closed doors all through out the cold war years and even to this day once and a while you'll get lucky and a president who knows something will drop a crumb, as an example President Reagan's speech about world unity, he mentioned that what would we do if we were attacked by a race from outer space, we would have to join together as one race.
There is a rather strong probability that they do have extraterrestrial hardware and perhaps some bodies. I've spoken with a retired military intelligence officer and he explained that he knew about the military's interest in UFO's and he had clearance to just about any place on the planet, however there were places that EVEN HE couldn't go, and were so top secret, maybe only the Joint Chiefs or possibly "Majestic 12" would be able to access. There were rooms that were off limits on some of the large bases and he was given the same clearance a 5 star general was given and he couldn't go into certain rooms, and underground facilities.
Captured Live beings though, aliens living underground, and alliances, that's where I bring that article to task, what proof is there of such things? It also begs the question, why here? If in fact such extraterrestrials are so far advanced technologically and can traverse the great distances between stars, it's very logical to support that any and all resources to them are virtually infinite and our planet would be entirely worthless to them, like if you or I saw a rock on the beach, the "who cares" mentality. It's also safe to assume that any such advanced race would have little use for human interaction aside from observation and study similar to when a scientist goes out into the wild and tags an animal or watches the animal kingdom.
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One thing is for certain, aliens would take a lot of interest in observing our society. Why? Because we're at a time in our evolution as a species, a society, and our technology where we will start walking on their lawns. We're maybe a century or less away from interstellar travel, and once we get our of our own solar system, we humans will be brazenly planting our Flag on some other worlds, but there may already be races that live there or possibly own or use that planet for something If history is any example, we don't tread quiety on other people's homelands, rather if we want it bad enough we do everything possible to take it away from the natives. One thing's for sure, I highly doubt that any advanced alien civilization is warlike, if they were they would have annhilated themselves with their technology long before they got to where they were. The trouble with humans and our maverick attitude about exploration is that we think that everything belongs to us, we are God's special creation made in his image, and the whole universe revolves around us, it really hasn't changed a whole lot since people thought the planet Earth was the center of the universe and all the planets and the sun revolved around it. We are still an elitist and greedy race of beings. It would be in an extraterrestrial's best interest to watch us and develop a contingency plan for when we do finally develop interstellar capability so that they can either condition our society slowly through change or prevent us from going where we want to go until we are ready to behave ourselves on other people's property.
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Refering back to what I wrote before that last post, logic would dictate that there is definitely a cover up. Why do I say this? First of all, so many human beings are not ready to accept the fact that we are not the greatest of God's children, and many ways of thinking would be distrupted and in many areas of the world a kind of anarchy would arise if the sudden revelation of extraterrestrials was dumped on the world's lap. In many ways the blanket of "national security" is just that, it could also be called "national stability" and that includes anything related to maintaining the "American Way of Life" and the natural progression of technology and society. Technology and science will develop at it's steady pace to ease us into the big changes in society. You'll notice that every year, something closer and closer to the covered up information get's revealed. Mainly, you'll find out about new advanced research projects that the government is doing, or astronomers will discover planets around other star systems, a rock from Mars will have only fossilzed microbes in it, you see this is a conditioning process. A peripheral reason I think Bush invaded Iraq is to stabilize the antiquated thinking in that part of the world and bring it up to a more modern view that way they won't be a detriment to the world and the society of tomorrow. There will eventually come a day of world peace, it is only enevidable. Right now that is not the case, there are still hold outs that have a different mindset than other people as far as human rights and the freedom of knowledge and thought are concerned. However there are a lot less troublesome places now, than there were centuries ago when just about every nation was at war with another nation at one point in time. Furthermore, look at the population of Earth, we have spread across the planet, and sooner or later our resources will dwindle and we will cause an exponential rate of deterioration to the planet and if we continue to use up it's resources and continue to deforest it to build our cities, suburbs, industrial plants, and farms. Everything humanity and society had built would come crashing back to anarchy and chaos when severe famine, and death from pollution, rampant diseases, and environmental disasters that result from global warming. There's only so much land, and a growing population, space exploration is a MUST if we are to survive as a species, we must build colonies on other planets like Mars, or the Moon, and then someday the stars.
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VG, you still haven't answered my castle questions. That's an achaeological thing that I want to learn more about.
Anyway, I don't know about you, but I think anarchy is the best way for the world to exist in if the people are ready for it. And perhaps, VGX, OUR generation can stop this foolish overconsumption and overpopulations so that we can continue to live here and not desecrate the land that has borne us for the past millenia. Space is a neat place, but it's no replacement for Earth.
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With Bow let us win Kine, with Bow in battle, with
Bow be victory in our hot encounters,
The Bow brings grief and sorrow to the foeman; armed
With Bow may we subdue all regions.
Close to his ear, as fain to speak, she presses, holding
Her well-loved friend in her embraces;
Strained on the bow, she whispers like a woman -- this
Bow-string that preserves us in the Combat.
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Who cares? Even if there are such societies as "Skull and Bones" or "Dicks in Butts" what's it matter? You cant prove any of it, and even if you can you cant change or have any effect on it, so why even worry about it? And masonry really isn't a secret society, they have they're public web pages, and you can even call them on the telephone and get information from them, which doesn't sound like they're hiding much.
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