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HARIS - J/39
User ID: 2107894 Jun 29th 1:16 PM
HELLO ALL DEAR ABDALIANS, DO U THINK MR YAQOOB ABID CHAUDHRY DESERVE TO BE THE D.V.P. OF OUR COLLEGE.WELL, I SHALL LIKE TO KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU THINK WHETHER HE DESERVED TO BE EVEN A TEACHER AT OUR DEAR COLLEGE.AND WAS HE NOT A SOURCE OF CONSTANT MENTAL AND SOMETIMES PHYSICAL TORTURE TO THE STUDENTS? THOSE WHO RESIDED IN JINNAH WING WHEN HE WAS THEIR HOUSEMASTER CAN ALSO PUT SOME LIGHT ON HIS ABILITIES AS A HOUSEMASTER. SO, MY DEAR ABDALIANS , I NEED UR FEEDBACK ON THE ACADEMIC, ADMINISTRATIVE AND MANLIKE ABILITIES OF MR.YAQUB ABID CHAUDHRY.YOU CAN ELABORATE ON THE SUBJECT BY RELATING TO YOUR PERSONAL EXPERIENCES WITH HIM.

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usman a/w
User ID: 9955583 Aug 7th 3:19 AM
Hi BJ Shahzeb......this is usman from the finance department extension no 368,just wanted to confirm that did you actually change the password of your female boss and didnt turn out the next day....and did you went straight to manager operations room to send a simple fax....and next time you make sure that you do not park your car where the word reserved is written....about the e issue of Mr Abid becoming the V.P.well the guy can dream on.
Their is no doubt that mr abid has been around the world in 360 days.In SAHARA he saw life,then he went for swimming at NIAGRA,at ARIZONA he fell of the cliff and survived,the NIGERIAN govt has given him an open visa and an open invitation to permanently settle in nigeria.... i wish their was an invitation.

HARIS - j/39 Aug 10th 8:52 AM
dear shahzeb,
where are you yara?and thanks for ur suport.

thanks a lot for bringing in this another scenario of mr.abid opting for the vice principal post.i dont know what to say about this.i have already expressed my views on mr.abid being dvp, and now you say that he is trying to be vice principal.all i can say is that"GOD bless cch...."

and dear usman,this reminder of all the"alif lailas"of mr.abid is quite refreshing.

HARIS - j/39 Aug 14th 11:23 AM
best wishes to all abdalians on the occasion of birth anniversary of our dearest PAKISTAN.

irfan shafi i/w Aug 28th 8:03 AM
well,i have read all that is written under this topic.i have been a silent reader but not anymore.it is something which just seems to be very unbelievable and cruel.who made this chap mr abid a dvp?cch used to be quite a civilized place during our times.ou teachers used to be very honourable persons.such a person like this"mr abid"should not have been made a teacher at cadet college hasanabdal and he has been made a dvp.well,this is really unbelievable astonishing and cruel.

Syed Asim Raza Rizvi
User ID: 3055604 Aug 30th 1:21 PM
Well Haris and others,

This is really great if we would be able to remove Mr. Abid Ch from that honourable post. But it needs true efforts and planning.

Asim Raza. (H/35 Kit # 3631)

jiggers
User ID: 9774843 Sep 1st 12:39 AM
wow ppl gr8

SYED ASIM RAZA RIZVI
User ID: 1502094 Sep 1st 1:49 PM
JIGGERS,

What are your actual names? Please.

Asim Raza. (H/35 Kit # 3631)

Amir Rauf H/31
User ID: 0150524 Sep 24th 2:41 AM
Hi guys.I am here in CCH as computer lecturer for the last 1 year. You are discussing whether he should be DVP or not. I have to tell you that he is going to be VP very soon (may be within a month).
Hope to hear from you people soon.
My email is ch_amir_rauf@yahoo.com

Wajahat J/39
User ID: 2581794 Oct 2nd 1:00 AM
Well...Well...change the topic, coz I have just received an email on the mailing list that Mr.Abid has been made the new VP....God bless poor souls of CCH...

Imran Zafar L/W 20th
User ID: 2372774 Oct 2nd 5:03 PM
Hi,
I vaguely remember this character joining the college. Although I never had any direct interaction (Luckily) with him but my impression of his prsonality was that he does not fit into the setup of CCH, especially when compared to people like Mahfooz Sahib, Siddiqui Sahib, Bokhari Sahib, RBR Sahib, Misbah Sahib to name a few. I was hoping that he would be routed out somehow or the other but it seems that either he has manipulated things to his advantage or the general standard at CCH has gone down on a slippery slope.
Almost all of us had our good times and bad times during our stay, but I am pretty sure that no one from the senior classes is so bitter about any of their teachers.This I think says a lot about the personality and charachter of the teachers of our time.
I cannot agree more with the views of Kamran Niaz regarding the inferiority complex. It is a pity that an institution like CCH, which has helped so many of its pupils get over this complex during thier stay could not help Mr Abid.
I for one do not think he was fit to be in CCH even as a mali let alone as a VP.
Bye the way how many more similar specimens does CCH have these days?

Kim 33 O/W
User ID: 9209903 Oct 3rd 12:57 AM
Dear All.

A.A.

I wish to draw your attention on latest developments at CCH where MR Abid Yaqoob has been made VP and MR Sarwar Shafqat as DVP (Admin.

I wish to congratulate MR S.S. for being DVP.
But i strongly recommend that there should be some plan and work to do to make MEhfooz sahib The NEW PRINCIPAL as it has been learnt that Brig. Shah Baber has been refused another extension. Please join hands and save CCH from the likes of MR. Abid and CO.

Please come out with some solid proposal to he;p and make Mr. Mehfooz new Principal and get a new VP as well.

Regrads

Kim

Kim 33 O/W
User ID: 9209903 Oct 3rd 12:59 AM
Mr. Abid Yaqoob is not a right person for VP. It is
same as if we make Ariel Sahron President of Pakistan.
How sincere would he be to us and Pakistan?

I don't wnat to discuss Mr Abid's personal character
here but even if i wished i could not due to the
extreeme of it.

Once agian AB ALLAH HE CCH PAY REHAM KARAY. (Aameen)

Regards

Kim

HARIS - j/39 Oct 5th 10:24 AM
well,reactions of all others seem enough.all our efforts seem to have gone in a trash can.it is a very disappointing and hopeless situation and now it is only upto ALLAH ALMIGHTY to save c.c.h.
AB ALLAH HI HAFIZ HAI.

SHAHID H GILANI
User ID: 8144383 Oct 8th 8:35 AM
Dear KIM,

Hello.

I think so it is agreat decision and very good for the college and the students when Mr. Abid Ch. is made Vice Principal because of his great skills and leadership qualities. I think Shah Babur and Abid Ch. is a good team to lead the college.

Shahid Hussain Gilani. (H/35 Kit No. 3632)

HARIS - j/39 Oct 8th 1:18 PM
dear shahid bhai,
you must be joking as your views have certainly made me laugh.

"his great skills and leadership qualities"
"shah babur and abid ch. is a good team to lead the college"
hahaha....you have really got a very fine sence of humour bhaijan.

Mansoor Usman Malik
User ID: 1112324 Oct 24th 9:46 AM
My best personal regards to all the dudes of 39th entry Jinnah Wing!
A lot of best wishes to Usman Khan,Abdullah Tariq,Omar Malik,Iqbal Shahid,Zeeshan Haider and my good old buddy Harry Boy i.e Haris Iqbal.
First of all do allow me to tell u about what i'm upto these days so that when i argue the whole matter then it should be seen in that perspective.O.k.something about myself.I'm in the final year of my Law graduation and in first year's annuals I stood second in the university of the Punjab which covers 5 divisions of the Province and topped my Law college and expecting the similar results in 2nd year.I've worked with the Corporate Legal deptt. of a Multinational Co. and also with the top corporate Law firm of the country.And my friends would receive a pleasant shock by learning that Mansoor is working 14 hours a day,anyways enough of self projection.
Let's come back to the issue.Haris Iqbal has always been a very nice fellow and it was fun working with all of u.First of all let me discuss about the biasis against people from Multan side.I am from Multan and Usman Khan would be amazed to know that i had the school leaving certificate of Jamil Academy which was not the case with Kamran Gardezi.So who was at the disadvantage,me or Kami. given that i had to defend my self on a very odd pitch.I personally believed that Kamran deserved appointment but why didn't he get that.We were all interviewed by Flt.Lt.Babar Shafi Khan and subsequently by Brig.Shah Babar.Was my father a general or was he in govt. those days?Facts suggest a big NO.Then what was the reason?Without any prejudice I would say that it's not we who are to evaluate ourselves,it's the people around us who are to do this.Some people get opportunities and they can't get hold of them and some people create opportunities and in my case i created opportunity and i'll argue how?Before the Cricket competition as far as i remember there was a talk of dropping me from the team.But what happened afterwards?Cricket competition though we lost and i think because of me coz i dropped a couple of very vital catches.But i created an opportunity for me.Anyway enough of it.Let's go back to the matters raised by Harry Boy.
So Mr.Abid wasn't a good person...though i've not been hired by Mr.Abid and even otherwise he cannot pay my legal fee.U know guys we all faced the wrath of Mr.Abid and i was as a victim of his attitude as was Haris..but guess what today when i look back then i would certainly say that had there been no Mr.Abid i would never have learnt to survive in the toughest of all the circumstances.Tell me what C.C.H is meant for?We were prepared to live a tough life.We were prepared to face the realities of life from whom we were immuned in those days.I think this is a very good gesture on Usman Khan's part that he thinks that Mr.Abid was never unfair with him but i think the other way round.Usman deserved to be the President of Hiking Club of which he was deprived and i was made the President and Usman for ur information's sake i talked to Mr.Abid about it and told him that as u r making me the so called Captain of the hiking team and Usman was a certificate holder in first year he deserves more than anybody to be the President.But in return i got the ever famous stare of Abid saab after which i kept my mouth shut.Meaning thereby that Mr.Abid was not harsh with every person from Multan etc.
I can understand what might have happened to Harry and how difficult those times would've been to him but Harry don't u think they were supposed to make u tough.I've all my sympathies with u.I recall an incidence.Once while we were being punished in the lower gallery by some second year senior and my friends Kamran and Abdullah hit the door of room 1,if i'm correct...we were all asked to report the then temproray appointment holder.We were asked to bring our study tables in the upper gallery as we were in 8th class.And the business as usual i.e ragra.Guess what? my own entry mates blamed me and Wajahat Mateen,one of the most wonderful person i've ever come across,that we did all that hitting the doors of second year room.We were terribly beaten up with leather belt and that lasted for over an hour.I told Wajahat not to tell the temp. apptt. the names of our friends who did all that.Remember we were 8th class kids.Won't u like to know that why did i request Wajahat not to reveal the names.My Friends!i had learnt one thing by that time i.e Sacrifice.Someone had to save the other 13 who were being punished just for nothing and if the real people don't have the courage to face what they did then someone had to take their sins on his shoulders for the sake of all those who were innocent.I learnt to be mentally tough and face everything that comes in the way of collective betterment.I got confidence at C.C.H.I owe a lot to C.C.H and Mr.Abid happened to be house Master for the first three years.Once while we were proceeding for weekend,i asked Abid saab to give me my pocket money which my father used to deposit with him.The balance was somewhere around Rs.5oo.Guess what?He gave me only 100 bucks and i was very pissed off.But when today i look back i see a wisdom in that gesture.500 was a good amount in those days and if i had gotten them i would've spent them all on my weekend at Islamabad where i used to go at my uncle's place.
Again once i was slapped by Mr.Abid in bio lab for nothing.After the lab period was over i went upto him and asked him why did he do that to me as i was doing nothing.He gave me a smile and said u r getting late for lunch...and today i realise that those little incidents gave me the courage to stand up for my rights and the confidence to plead my case.
Friends this confidence has paid me a lot.For ur information's sake I was a member of the student delegation who was invited by The President Gen.Musharraf to discuss his visit to India.Friends!this entry mate of urs never hesitated in conveying his opinoin to the President of the country.Where did i get this confidence from?Answer is C.C.H.Who was the person with whom we had to live with in our initial years?Answer is Abid saab.Why didn't his attitude shattered my personality?Answer is that i was willing to accept any challenge which comes in my way.Then the point is that why did everything went wrong with Harry Boy.I think Haris needed some counselling but never got it.Unfortunately he never liked to share most of his problems with friends.Infact he needed some katharsas.Anyway,Haris never think that somebody had any prejudices and malafides against u.And Abid saab....i am not prepared to buy this whole stuff.He belonged to ur area and used to be full of praise for u and made u a dorm senior.As far as that incident is concerned when u were beaten up by Abid saab..let me try and reply to that issue.We all know,during those days Brig.Babar had introduced reforms.And if that incidence had been reported to him we know what would have happened...EXPULSION.Haris,POWER,it is said,CORRUPTS AND ABSOLUTE POWER CORRUPTS ABSOLUTELY.To me that incidence could have been a great learning experience for u,though a bit harsh.To me that attitude of Mr.Abid was meant to let u know how to use the authority entrusted on u and how to change ur attitude in changing circumstances.
I'm sorry..it has been a very long mail but it has been a lot of time since i've heard of u guys.I'll come back on the issue,Whether Brig.Babar deserved to be the Principal or not?
Best of luck to all of.And let's try and forget about all the bad things that happened at C.C.H.Let's try and avoid this habit of living in our past.To me this is what we need to get rid of as a Nation and as Muslim Ummah.

Bilal Ijaz 42/H
User ID: 0896204 Oct 24th 9:58 PM
Assalam-o-Allaikum!

Your post did put some things in perspective. I, on the other hand, didn't have the courage to ask Abid Saab why he berated me without reason.

Anyways, the reason why I am posting is to share my pride on the fact that a fellow Abdalian has reached such heights. May you scale even greater heights, Inshallah!

usman a/w
User ID: 9502963 Oct 25th 3:33 AM
dear friends

i heard a whole lot stories about the prejudice
against my friends from Jamil Academy(misali public school) by the college administration.

as my father is in the civil service i had a chance to visit Multan and it was my utmost wish to visit the much talked about Jamil Academy.

well i am very sorry to say, that i didnt want to stay their for long as i fealt fear in the environment, and after listening stories about the place i was really upset and depressed.

the standard of living of that place or the environment can never be compared with cch.

and after that visit i had few quetions in my mind.
why did my friends at cch from jamil academy never told me really what happened at the academy?

they always complained about the cch administration being bias, how about discussing the college administration of jamil academy.

you remember the beatings you received from Abid sahib and how about telling us about the beatings you received from your teachers at jamil academy.

these are few of the things there are other facts as well which i dont want to discuss on the forum.

all i am trying to say here is that please think before you complain ,cadet college hasanabdal has given you so much and if you feel that did you were not done justice with because you were from jamil academy, this is your inferiority complex and no one can do anything about it.

during my five year stay i have seen cadets from the academy getting appointments, college team colours, best sportsmen etc.

as my friend usman malik who is from has said that on this forum that its about creating oppurtunities, availing them and making other people realise what your worth is.

and if you feel that a Mr Abid beat you or he gave you a mental torture, he did that to every person with no exception.

hope my message is well understood.

Hafiz Riaz
User ID: 0610144 Nov 1st 10:52 AM
Mr Shahid
AB TO CHUS MARNA CHOOR DOO, BHI AB AAP COLLEGE MAIN NAHEEN HO. MITHA AAP KO KHUCH NAHEEN KAHAI GHA.

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HARIS - J/39 User ID: 2107894	Jun 29th 1:16 PM HELLO ALL DEAR ABDALIANS, DO U THINK MR YAQOOB ABID CHAUDHRY DESERVE TO BE THE D.V.P. OF OUR COLLEGE.WELL, I SHALL LIKE TO KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU THINK WHETHER HE DESERVED TO BE EVEN A TEACHER AT OUR DEAR COLLEGE.AND WAS HE NOT A SOURCE OF CONSTANT MENTAL AND SOMETIMES PHYSICAL TORTURE TO THE STUDENTS? THOSE WHO RESIDED IN JINNAH WING WHEN HE WAS THEIR HOUSEMASTER CAN ALSO PUT SOME LIGHT ON HIS ABILITIES AS A HOUSEMASTER. SO, MY DEAR ABDALIANS , I NEED UR FEEDBACK ON THE ACADEMIC, ADMINISTRATIVE AND MANLIKE ABILITIES OF MR.YAQUB ABID CHAUDHRY.YOU CAN ELABORATE ON THE SUBJECT BY RELATING TO YOUR PERSONAL EXPERIENCES WITH HIM. THOSE WHO MANAGE THIS SITE ARE REQUESTED NOT TO DELETE THIS TOPIC FROM THIS SITE FOR THE SAKE OF EXPRESSION OF EMOTIONS OF US,THE OLD ABDALIANS.
usman a/w User ID: 9955583	Aug 7th 3:19 AM Hi BJ Shahzeb......this is usman from the finance department extension no 368,just wanted to confirm that did you actually change the password of your female boss and didnt turn out the next day....and did you went straight to manager operations room to send a simple fax....and next time you make sure that you do not park your car where the word reserved is written....about the e issue of Mr Abid becoming the V.P.well the guy can dream on. Their is no doubt that mr abid has been around the world in 360 days.In SAHARA he saw life,then he went for swimming at NIAGRA,at ARIZONA he fell of the cliff and survived,the NIGERIAN govt has given him an open visa and an open invitation to permanently settle in nigeria.... i wish their was an invitation.
HARIS - j/39	Aug 10th 8:52 AM dear shahzeb, where are you yara?and thanks for ur suport. thanks a lot for bringing in this another scenario of mr.abid opting for the vice principal post.i dont know what to say about this.i have already expressed my views on mr.abid being dvp, and now you say that he is trying to be vice principal.all i can say is that"GOD bless cch...." and dear usman,this reminder of all the"alif lailas"of mr.abid is quite refreshing.
HARIS - j/39	Aug 14th 11:23 AM best wishes to all abdalians on the occasion of birth anniversary of our dearest PAKISTAN.
irfan shafi i/w	Aug 28th 8:03 AM well,i have read all that is written under this topic.i have been a silent reader but not anymore.it is something which just seems to be very unbelievable and cruel.who made this chap mr abid a dvp?cch used to be quite a civilized place during our times.ou teachers used to be very honourable persons.such a person like this"mr abid"should not have been made a teacher at cadet college hasanabdal and he has been made a dvp.well,this is really unbelievable astonishing and cruel.
Syed Asim Raza Rizvi User ID: 3055604	Aug 30th 1:21 PM Well Haris and others, This is really great if we would be able to remove Mr. Abid Ch from that honourable post. But it needs true efforts and planning. Asim Raza. (H/35 Kit # 3631)
jiggers User ID: 9774843	Sep 1st 12:39 AM wow ppl gr8
SYED ASIM RAZA RIZVI User ID: 1502094	Sep 1st 1:49 PM JIGGERS, What are your actual names? Please. Asim Raza. (H/35 Kit # 3631)
Amir Rauf H/31 User ID: 0150524	Sep 24th 2:41 AM Hi guys.I am here in CCH as computer lecturer for the last 1 year. You are discussing whether he should be DVP or not. I have to tell you that he is going to be VP very soon (may be within a month). Hope to hear from you people soon. My email is ch_amir_rauf@yahoo.com
Wajahat J/39 User ID: 2581794	Oct 2nd 1:00 AM Well...Well...change the topic, coz I have just received an email on the mailing list that Mr.Abid has been made the new VP....God bless poor souls of CCH...
Imran Zafar L/W 20th User ID: 2372774	Oct 2nd 5:03 PM Hi, I vaguely remember this character joining the college. Although I never had any direct interaction (Luckily) with him but my impression of his prsonality was that he does not fit into the setup of CCH, especially when compared to people like Mahfooz Sahib, Siddiqui Sahib, Bokhari Sahib, RBR Sahib, Misbah Sahib to name a few. I was hoping that he would be routed out somehow or the other but it seems that either he has manipulated things to his advantage or the general standard at CCH has gone down on a slippery slope. Almost all of us had our good times and bad times during our stay, but I am pretty sure that no one from the senior classes is so bitter about any of their teachers.This I think says a lot about the personality and charachter of the teachers of our time. I cannot agree more with the views of Kamran Niaz regarding the inferiority complex. It is a pity that an institution like CCH, which has helped so many of its pupils get over this complex during thier stay could not help Mr Abid. I for one do not think he was fit to be in CCH even as a mali let alone as a VP. Bye the way how many more similar specimens does CCH have these days?
Kim 33 O/W User ID: 9209903	Oct 3rd 12:57 AM Dear All. A.A. I wish to draw your attention on latest developments at CCH where MR Abid Yaqoob has been made VP and MR Sarwar Shafqat as DVP (Admin. I wish to congratulate MR S.S. for being DVP. But i strongly recommend that there should be some plan and work to do to make MEhfooz sahib The NEW PRINCIPAL as it has been learnt that Brig. Shah Baber has been refused another extension. Please join hands and save CCH from the likes of MR. Abid and CO. Please come out with some solid proposal to he;p and make Mr. Mehfooz new Principal and get a new VP as well. Regrads Kim
Kim 33 O/W User ID: 9209903	Oct 3rd 12:59 AM Mr. Abid Yaqoob is not a right person for VP. It is same as if we make Ariel Sahron President of Pakistan. How sincere would he be to us and Pakistan? I don't wnat to discuss Mr Abid's personal character here but even if i wished i could not due to the extreeme of it. Once agian AB ALLAH HE CCH PAY REHAM KARAY. (Aameen) Regards Kim
HARIS - j/39	Oct 5th 10:24 AM well,reactions of all others seem enough.all our efforts seem to have gone in a trash can.it is a very disappointing and hopeless situation and now it is only upto ALLAH ALMIGHTY to save c.c.h. AB ALLAH HI HAFIZ HAI.
SHAHID H GILANI User ID: 8144383	Oct 8th 8:35 AM Dear KIM, Hello. I think so it is agreat decision and very good for the college and the students when Mr. Abid Ch. is made Vice Principal because of his great skills and leadership qualities. I think Shah Babur and Abid Ch. is a good team to lead the college. Shahid Hussain Gilani. (H/35 Kit No. 3632)
HARIS - j/39	Oct 8th 1:18 PM dear shahid bhai, you must be joking as your views have certainly made me laugh. "his great skills and leadership qualities" "shah babur and abid ch. is a good team to lead the college" hahaha....you have really got a very fine sence of humour bhaijan.
Mansoor Usman Malik User ID: 1112324	Oct 24th 9:46 AM My best personal regards to all the dudes of 39th entry Jinnah Wing! A lot of best wishes to Usman Khan,Abdullah Tariq,Omar Malik,Iqbal Shahid,Zeeshan Haider and my good old buddy Harry Boy i.e Haris Iqbal. First of all do allow me to tell u about what i'm upto these days so that when i argue the whole matter then it should be seen in that perspective.O.k.something about myself.I'm in the final year of my Law graduation and in first year's annuals I stood second in the university of the Punjab which covers 5 divisions of the Province and topped my Law college and expecting the similar results in 2nd year.I've worked with the Corporate Legal deptt. of a Multinational Co. and also with the top corporate Law firm of the country.And my friends would receive a pleasant shock by learning that Mansoor is working 14 hours a day,anyways enough of self projection. Let's come back to the issue.Haris Iqbal has always been a very nice fellow and it was fun working with all of u.First of all let me discuss about the biasis against people from Multan side.I am from Multan and Usman Khan would be amazed to know that i had the school leaving certificate of Jamil Academy which was not the case with Kamran Gardezi.So who was at the disadvantage,me or Kami. given that i had to defend my self on a very odd pitch.I personally believed that Kamran deserved appointment but why didn't he get that.We were all interviewed by Flt.Lt.Babar Shafi Khan and subsequently by Brig.Shah Babar.Was my father a general or was he in govt. those days?Facts suggest a big NO.Then what was the reason?Without any prejudice I would say that it's not we who are to evaluate ourselves,it's the people around us who are to do this.Some people get opportunities and they can't get hold of them and some people create opportunities and in my case i created opportunity and i'll argue how?Before the Cricket competition as far as i remember there was a talk of dropping me from the team.But what happened afterwards?Cricket competition though we lost and i think because of me coz i dropped a couple of very vital catches.But i created an opportunity for me.Anyway enough of it.Let's go back to the matters raised by Harry Boy. So Mr.Abid wasn't a good person...though i've not been hired by Mr.Abid and even otherwise he cannot pay my legal fee.U know guys we all faced the wrath of Mr.Abid and i was as a victim of his attitude as was Haris..but guess what today when i look back then i would certainly say that had there been no Mr.Abid i would never have learnt to survive in the toughest of all the circumstances.Tell me what C.C.H is meant for?We were prepared to live a tough life.We were prepared to face the realities of life from whom we were immuned in those days.I think this is a very good gesture on Usman Khan's part that he thinks that Mr.Abid was never unfair with him but i think the other way round.Usman deserved to be the President of Hiking Club of which he was deprived and i was made the President and Usman for ur information's sake i talked to Mr.Abid about it and told him that as u r making me the so called Captain of the hiking team and Usman was a certificate holder in first year he deserves more than anybody to be the President.But in return i got the ever famous stare of Abid saab after which i kept my mouth shut.Meaning thereby that Mr.Abid was not harsh with every person from Multan etc. I can understand what might have happened to Harry and how difficult those times would've been to him but Harry don't u think they were supposed to make u tough.I've all my sympathies with u.I recall an incidence.Once while we were being punished in the lower gallery by some second year senior and my friends Kamran and Abdullah hit the door of room 1,if i'm correct...we were all asked to report the then temproray appointment holder.We were asked to bring our study tables in the upper gallery as we were in 8th class.And the business as usual i.e ragra.Guess what? my own entry mates blamed me and Wajahat Mateen,one of the most wonderful person i've ever come across,that we did all that hitting the doors of second year room.We were terribly beaten up with leather belt and that lasted for over an hour.I told Wajahat not to tell the temp. apptt. the names of our friends who did all that.Remember we were 8th class kids.Won't u like to know that why did i request Wajahat not to reveal the names.My Friends!i had learnt one thing by that time i.e Sacrifice.Someone had to save the other 13 who were being punished just for nothing and if the real people don't have the courage to face what they did then someone had to take their sins on his shoulders for the sake of all those who were innocent.I learnt to be mentally tough and face everything that comes in the way of collective betterment.I got confidence at C.C.H.I owe a lot to C.C.H and Mr.Abid happened to be house Master for the first three years.Once while we were proceeding for weekend,i asked Abid saab to give me my pocket money which my father used to deposit with him.The balance was somewhere around Rs.5oo.Guess what?He gave me only 100 bucks and i was very pissed off.But when today i look back i see a wisdom in that gesture.500 was a good amount in those days and if i had gotten them i would've spent them all on my weekend at Islamabad where i used to go at my uncle's place. Again once i was slapped by Mr.Abid in bio lab for nothing.After the lab period was over i went upto him and asked him why did he do that to me as i was doing nothing.He gave me a smile and said u r getting late for lunch...and today i realise that those little incidents gave me the courage to stand up for my rights and the confidence to plead my case. Friends this confidence has paid me a lot.For ur information's sake I was a member of the student delegation who was invited by The President Gen.Musharraf to discuss his visit to India.Friends!this entry mate of urs never hesitated in conveying his opinoin to the President of the country.Where did i get this confidence from?Answer is C.C.H.Who was the person with whom we had to live with in our initial years?Answer is Abid saab.Why didn't his attitude shattered my personality?Answer is that i was willing to accept any challenge which comes in my way.Then the point is that why did everything went wrong with Harry Boy.I think Haris needed some counselling but never got it.Unfortunately he never liked to share most of his problems with friends.Infact he needed some katharsas.Anyway,Haris never think that somebody had any prejudices and malafides against u.And Abid saab....i am not prepared to buy this whole stuff.He belonged to ur area and used to be full of praise for u and made u a dorm senior.As far as that incident is concerned when u were beaten up by Abid saab..let me try and reply to that issue.We all know,during those days Brig.Babar had introduced reforms.And if that incidence had been reported to him we know what would have happened...EXPULSION.Haris,POWER,it is said,CORRUPTS AND ABSOLUTE POWER CORRUPTS ABSOLUTELY.To me that incidence could have been a great learning experience for u,though a bit harsh.To me that attitude of Mr.Abid was meant to let u know how to use the authority entrusted on u and how to change ur attitude in changing circumstances. I'm sorry..it has been a very long mail but it has been a lot of time since i've heard of u guys.I'll come back on the issue,Whether Brig.Babar deserved to be the Principal or not? Best of luck to all of.And let's try and forget about all the bad things that happened at C.C.H.Let's try and avoid this habit of living in our past.To me this is what we need to get rid of as a Nation and as Muslim Ummah.
Bilal Ijaz 42/H User ID: 0896204	Oct 24th 9:58 PM Assalam-o-Allaikum! Your post did put some things in perspective. I, on the other hand, didn't have the courage to ask Abid Saab why he berated me without reason. Anyways, the reason why I am posting is to share my pride on the fact that a fellow Abdalian has reached such heights. May you scale even greater heights, Inshallah!
usman a/w User ID: 9502963	Oct 25th 3:33 AM dear friends i heard a whole lot stories about the prejudice against my friends from Jamil Academy(misali public school) by the college administration. as my father is in the civil service i had a chance to visit Multan and it was my utmost wish to visit the much talked about Jamil Academy. well i am very sorry to say, that i didnt want to stay their for long as i fealt fear in the environment, and after listening stories about the place i was really upset and depressed. the standard of living of that place or the environment can never be compared with cch. and after that visit i had few quetions in my mind. why did my friends at cch from jamil academy never told me really what happened at the academy? they always complained about the cch administration being bias, how about discussing the college administration of jamil academy. you remember the beatings you received from Abid sahib and how about telling us about the beatings you received from your teachers at jamil academy. these are few of the things there are other facts as well which i dont want to discuss on the forum. all i am trying to say here is that please think before you complain ,cadet college hasanabdal has given you so much and if you feel that did you were not done justice with because you were from jamil academy, this is your inferiority complex and no one can do anything about it. during my five year stay i have seen cadets from the academy getting appointments, college team colours, best sportsmen etc. as my friend usman malik who is from has said that on this forum that its about creating oppurtunities, availing them and making other people realise what your worth is. and if you feel that a Mr Abid beat you or he gave you a mental torture, he did that to every person with no exception. hope my message is well understood.
Hafiz Riaz User ID: 0610144	Nov 1st 10:52 AM Mr Shahid AB TO CHUS MARNA CHOOR DOO, BHI AB AAP COLLEGE MAIN NAHEEN HO. MITHA AAP KO KHUCH NAHEEN KAHAI GHA.