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WW2
User ID: 8973393 Jul 11th 12:15 PM
You have read my complaints about lack of rain here in Southern California; but this is getting ridiculous!

Off the coast of Mexico we have a Tropical Storm that is doing its best to become a cyclone (hurricane). The usual results of this type of activity are that moisture spins off of the storm and heads into Southern California, Arizona and New Mexico (as well as Baja California and the Mexican Mainland) lowering temperatures and spawning rain and thunderstorms. This typically brings relief from the high temperatures and raises the humidity dramatically.

This storm has indeed tempered our temperatures. As of 10:00 AM the temperature is only 72F (22C) with humidity at 61%. Typical for this time of year it should be about 86F (30C) with humidity around 15%. So, this moisture and cloud cover is welcome.

However, our much needed rain is only given a 10% chance of happening. We are expecting DRY thunderstorms! Just what we need, lightning striking our very dry vegetation with no rain to stop or contain any ensuing fires. Well, I guess I should prepare for a long, smokey fire season.

If only we could take some of the European or Texan deluge and water thirsty Southern California!

Alan (uk)
User ID: 0651814 Jul 11th 12:34 PM
That's the beauty of Global Warming, not just heat but changing (and more extreme) weather patterns.... As if your weather patterns weren't extreme enough already, eh ?

I have to laugh when I hear celebrities or moguls announcing what they're going to do to 'trade-off' or compensate for their contribution to Global warming (apart from flying all 'round the world, depleting the ozone layer, whilst asking us not to deplete the ozone layer, eh, Mr Gore ? I'll bet political campaigns generate a lot of gas !)

Why not just do all the good things anyway, WITHOUT doing the bad things ? Then the beneficial effect would be double, or am I just being niave ? Probably...:-((

Jim B
User ID: 1913054 Jul 12th 7:41 AM
Yesterday I talked to someone who had a friend who went to the Antarctic. The friend had her hair dyed before the trip. When she got there,her hair started turning brittle and breaking off-- the ozone layer was gone and the sunshine was interacting with the dye. It took her a month after returning before her hair started recovering.Where I live the weather is fine; corn in places is 6 feet high.

Guwapo
User ID: 9363883 Jul 12th 9:50 AM
It's a little known fact that most of the ozone layer has been depleted by cows standing or sometimes lying around in pastures green chewing their cud and flatulating. Cows are also the main cause of global warming. Not many people know that or wish to know that.

jazzbug1
User ID: 8722703 Jul 12th 5:20 PM
Al Gourd has clearly shown the ozone layer is being depleted by the recent man-made phenomena of long forgotten C Melody sax cases being opened, causing huge amounts of the released smelly stuff to penetrate into the upper limits of the atmosphere. He is sponsoring a new federal law to have all unopened C Melody saxes taken to a salt mine in Nevada and incinerated in a nuclear oven.

Sam (IE)
User ID: 0331974 Jul 12th 6:12 PM
In Ireland there hasn't been a day yet without rain. It's getting a bit miserable and there was a long-term weather forecaster on the radio a few days ago saying that we won't be seeing the sun again until 2008.
There's a government advertising campaign telling you not to water you lawn and save water, and I wonder what else they could have done with the money every time I see one, in the rain.

On the bright side, at least we don't have the UK floods or the Californian drought.

Alan (uk)
User ID: 0651814 Jul 13th 2:42 AM
I think all poiticiams, past and present, should be "taken to a salt mine in Nevada and incinerated in a nuclear oven." Leave the C-mels alone....

Castaway
User ID: 9182423 Jul 13th 7:15 AM
What's a "poiticiam"? Sounds like a flower to me. Why would you want to incinerate a flower in a nuclear oven in a salt mine? Did I miss something here? What's this got to do with the weather. HELP ME. I'm confused.

Alan (uk)
User ID: 0651814 Jul 13th 8:31 AM
A 'poiticiam' is a dyslexic politician !

'Dubya' often refers to himself as 'Dybua' - didn't you learn anything at school ?

Politicians contribute almost as much to the depletion of the ozone layer as farting cows... And make less sense.

WW2
User ID: 8973393 Jul 13th 11:37 AM
True! At least the cows are providing a service!

Alan (uk)
User ID: 0651814 Jul 13th 12:49 PM
The irony is that in an effort to reduce their 'carbon footprint', some people are reducing or eliminating consumption of meat (http://www.carbonfootprint.com/Minimise_cfp.html).

As a more (ahem!) fibrous diet encourages flatulence, it's a bit self-defeating - and also leaves more cows blowing holes in the ozone layer.

Eat more steaks - save the world ! But don't tell the Hindu's, or they could get upset.....

Captain Beeflat
User ID: 1738604 Jul 13th 2:08 PM
Absolutely.
The cows are particularly flatulent because they are herbivores..."vegetarian" being a contrived word.
Am I the only one who loathes the expression Carbon Footprint? Smug in the extreme, another bullet in the armoury of the We Know what's Best for You brigade.

Alan (uk)
User ID: 0651814 Jul 13th 2:26 PM
"the We Know what's Best for You brigade..." who frequently drive around in big Jags and jet off to far-flung meetings at the drop of a hat (and at our expense).

I think, as a planet, with the internet and multiple 24-hour "news as it happens" channels, we are now just too well informed, and with multiple viewpoints on everything as well. Bring back a bit of mystery into our lives, I'd sometimes quite like to NOT know about everything...

Guwapo
User ID: 9363883 Jul 14th 5:44 AM
In the wild - if there is ever is such a thing as a wild cow - they are indeed herbivores. But let us not forget that cow's caught mad cow disease because farmers fed them on their mates brains. Like you said not everyone wants to know that. And what are farmers feeding cows on today may I ask?

If the Chinese could be pursuaded to increase the production of cheap C-Melody saxophones so that everyone in the world could afford to buy one they in turn could afford to eat more steaks instead of bowls of fart producing rice. Then global warming would be eliminated, the ozone layer repaired, sea levels would then fall and a new ice age would dawn, but it might take a few years.

alan (uk)
User ID: 9007973 Jul 14th 12:21 PM
Hmmm - good theory....

Captain Beeflat
User ID: 1738604 Jul 14th 2:21 PM
The other option is to let Nature take it's course as it has done since time immemorial. Do we really think that we can beat it?...Let's use all the petrol while it,and we,are here.
Global Warming has spawned a hypocritical industry in itself, and provided another dubious bandwagon for the ill informed and easily led. I was talking to a prominent Green Party member recently who was unaware that the weight of a vehicle was directly proportional to it's weight; his public speaking abilities grossly outweighing his very limited knowledge. Yet all his sycophants listen agog to, and believe, his prophesies. Hey Ho.

Captain Beeflat
User ID: 1738604 Jul 14th 2:22 PM
Correction.
Should have said "directly proportional to it's CO2 output"

Alan (uk)
User ID: 0651814 Jul 15th 11:22 AM
Well, cows have been farting since the beginning of (cow) time, but the ozone layer depletion has only accelerated since the human-inspired Industrial Revolution ?

ukebert
User ID: 0443584 Jul 15th 11:48 AM
Alan, popular misconception, the ozone layer has nothing to do with cows farting. The ozone layer was/is depleted by CFCs, which react with the ozone in a kind of chain reaction.

Cows emit methane, which is a potent greenhouse gas. These gases can absorb quite a lot of heat, and so increase the amount of heat stored in the atmosphere at any one time, causing an increase in average temperatures. The problem is that all of our industrial processes emit an owful amount of CO2. The argument is not so much as whether the CO2 is causing global warming, everyone knows that, but how much effect this warming will have. Estimates range from negligable to catastrophic. It seems that virtually all climate scientists are united on the latter, which is not particularly good news fo those of use who plan on living for more than 50 years hence.

Captain Beeflat
User ID: 1738604 Jul 15th 1:14 PM
Many of those scientists who signed up to the initial hypothesis, did it, shall we say, for political rather than scientific reasons. Many of the original signatories are threatening now to sue unless their names are removed.
Rather more ethical scientists have calculated that every human influence accounts for just 1.5% of the greenhouse gasses. The expression "p*****g in the wind springs to mind.
This is the old story...all the philosophers in the world, if put end to end, would not reach a conclusion.
Sadly, we believe what we are told to believe.

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WW2 User ID: 8973393	Jul 11th 12:15 PM You have read my complaints about lack of rain here in Southern California; but this is getting ridiculous! Off the coast of Mexico we have a Tropical Storm that is doing its best to become a cyclone (hurricane). The usual results of this type of activity are that moisture spins off of the storm and heads into Southern California, Arizona and New Mexico (as well as Baja California and the Mexican Mainland) lowering temperatures and spawning rain and thunderstorms. This typically brings relief from the high temperatures and raises the humidity dramatically. This storm has indeed tempered our temperatures. As of 10:00 AM the temperature is only 72F (22C) with humidity at 61%. Typical for this time of year it should be about 86F (30C) with humidity around 15%. So, this moisture and cloud cover is welcome. However, our much needed rain is only given a 10% chance of happening. We are expecting DRY thunderstorms! Just what we need, lightning striking our very dry vegetation with no rain to stop or contain any ensuing fires. Well, I guess I should prepare for a long, smokey fire season. If only we could take some of the European or Texan deluge and water thirsty Southern California!
Alan (uk) User ID: 0651814	Jul 11th 12:34 PM That's the beauty of Global Warming, not just heat but changing (and more extreme) weather patterns.... As if your weather patterns weren't extreme enough already, eh ? I have to laugh when I hear celebrities or moguls announcing what they're going to do to 'trade-off' or compensate for their contribution to Global warming (apart from flying all 'round the world, depleting the ozone layer, whilst asking us not to deplete the ozone layer, eh, Mr Gore ? I'll bet political campaigns generate a lot of gas !) Why not just do all the good things anyway, WITHOUT doing the bad things ? Then the beneficial effect would be double, or am I just being niave ? Probably...:-((
Jim B User ID: 1913054	Jul 12th 7:41 AM Yesterday I talked to someone who had a friend who went to the Antarctic. The friend had her hair dyed before the trip. When she got there,her hair started turning brittle and breaking off-- the ozone layer was gone and the sunshine was interacting with the dye. It took her a month after returning before her hair started recovering.Where I live the weather is fine; corn in places is 6 feet high.
Guwapo User ID: 9363883	Jul 12th 9:50 AM It's a little known fact that most of the ozone layer has been depleted by cows standing or sometimes lying around in pastures green chewing their cud and flatulating. Cows are also the main cause of global warming. Not many people know that or wish to know that.
jazzbug1 User ID: 8722703	Jul 12th 5:20 PM Al Gourd has clearly shown the ozone layer is being depleted by the recent man-made phenomena of long forgotten C Melody sax cases being opened, causing huge amounts of the released smelly stuff to penetrate into the upper limits of the atmosphere. He is sponsoring a new federal law to have all unopened C Melody saxes taken to a salt mine in Nevada and incinerated in a nuclear oven.
Sam (IE) User ID: 0331974	Jul 12th 6:12 PM In Ireland there hasn't been a day yet without rain. It's getting a bit miserable and there was a long-term weather forecaster on the radio a few days ago saying that we won't be seeing the sun again until 2008. There's a government advertising campaign telling you not to water you lawn and save water, and I wonder what else they could have done with the money every time I see one, in the rain. On the bright side, at least we don't have the UK floods or the Californian drought.
Alan (uk) User ID: 0651814	Jul 13th 2:42 AM I think all poiticiams, past and present, should be "taken to a salt mine in Nevada and incinerated in a nuclear oven." Leave the C-mels alone....
Castaway User ID: 9182423	Jul 13th 7:15 AM What's a "poiticiam"? Sounds like a flower to me. Why would you want to incinerate a flower in a nuclear oven in a salt mine? Did I miss something here? What's this got to do with the weather. HELP ME. I'm confused.
Alan (uk) User ID: 0651814	Jul 13th 8:31 AM A 'poiticiam' is a dyslexic politician ! 'Dubya' often refers to himself as 'Dybua' - didn't you learn anything at school ? Politicians contribute almost as much to the depletion of the ozone layer as farting cows... And make less sense.
WW2 User ID: 8973393	Jul 13th 11:37 AM True! At least the cows are providing a service!
Alan (uk) User ID: 0651814	Jul 13th 12:49 PM The irony is that in an effort to reduce their 'carbon footprint', some people are reducing or eliminating consumption of meat (http://www.carbonfootprint.com/Minimise_cfp.html). As a more (ahem!) fibrous diet encourages flatulence, it's a bit self-defeating - and also leaves more cows blowing holes in the ozone layer. Eat more steaks - save the world ! But don't tell the Hindu's, or they could get upset.....
Captain Beeflat User ID: 1738604	Jul 13th 2:08 PM Absolutely. The cows are particularly flatulent because they are herbivores..."vegetarian" being a contrived word. Am I the only one who loathes the expression Carbon Footprint? Smug in the extreme, another bullet in the armoury of the We Know what's Best for You brigade.
Alan (uk) User ID: 0651814	Jul 13th 2:26 PM "the We Know what's Best for You brigade..." who frequently drive around in big Jags and jet off to far-flung meetings at the drop of a hat (and at our expense). I think, as a planet, with the internet and multiple 24-hour "news as it happens" channels, we are now just too well informed, and with multiple viewpoints on everything as well. Bring back a bit of mystery into our lives, I'd sometimes quite like to NOT know about everything...
Guwapo User ID: 9363883	Jul 14th 5:44 AM In the wild - if there is ever is such a thing as a wild cow - they are indeed herbivores. But let us not forget that cow's caught mad cow disease because farmers fed them on their mates brains. Like you said not everyone wants to know that. And what are farmers feeding cows on today may I ask? If the Chinese could be pursuaded to increase the production of cheap C-Melody saxophones so that everyone in the world could afford to buy one they in turn could afford to eat more steaks instead of bowls of fart producing rice. Then global warming would be eliminated, the ozone layer repaired, sea levels would then fall and a new ice age would dawn, but it might take a few years.
alan (uk) User ID: 9007973	Jul 14th 12:21 PM Hmmm - good theory....
Captain Beeflat User ID: 1738604	Jul 14th 2:21 PM The other option is to let Nature take it's course as it has done since time immemorial. Do we really think that we can beat it?...Let's use all the petrol while it,and we,are here. Global Warming has spawned a hypocritical industry in itself, and provided another dubious bandwagon for the ill informed and easily led. I was talking to a prominent Green Party member recently who was unaware that the weight of a vehicle was directly proportional to it's weight; his public speaking abilities grossly outweighing his very limited knowledge. Yet all his sycophants listen agog to, and believe, his prophesies. Hey Ho.
Captain Beeflat User ID: 1738604	Jul 14th 2:22 PM Correction. Should have said "directly proportional to it's CO2 output"
Alan (uk) User ID: 0651814	Jul 15th 11:22 AM Well, cows have been farting since the beginning of (cow) time, but the ozone layer depletion has only accelerated since the human-inspired Industrial Revolution ?
ukebert User ID: 0443584	Jul 15th 11:48 AM Alan, popular misconception, the ozone layer has nothing to do with cows farting. The ozone layer was/is depleted by CFCs, which react with the ozone in a kind of chain reaction. Cows emit methane, which is a potent greenhouse gas. These gases can absorb quite a lot of heat, and so increase the amount of heat stored in the atmosphere at any one time, causing an increase in average temperatures. The problem is that all of our industrial processes emit an owful amount of CO2. The argument is not so much as whether the CO2 is causing global warming, everyone knows that, but how much effect this warming will have. Estimates range from negligable to catastrophic. It seems that virtually all climate scientists are united on the latter, which is not particularly good news fo those of use who plan on living for more than 50 years hence.
Captain Beeflat User ID: 1738604	Jul 15th 1:14 PM Many of those scientists who signed up to the initial hypothesis, did it, shall we say, for political rather than scientific reasons. Many of the original signatories are threatening now to sue unless their names are removed. Rather more ethical scientists have calculated that every human influence accounts for just 1.5% of the greenhouse gasses. The expression "p*****g in the wind springs to mind. This is the old story...all the philosophers in the world, if put end to end, would not reach a conclusion. Sadly, we believe what we are told to believe.