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Dune House Atreides / Comments on Dune: The Butlerian Jihad / Who of you have even read Jihad?

DH Danmark Jul 30th 2:43 PM
It seems to me (if im looking at the posts in these topics) that only a few in here have read the Jihad book. Som my question is. Who have read it? Yoyr opinion about it (compareed to teh other preqs maybe) and are you going to read Machine crusade? (Yeah I know that there is one topic "The Jihad" about this, but still its long dead)

(Argh, please forum be alive... Oh by the way, when have anyone last heard a word form the Admin, is he never going to make somthing out of this homepage again?)

the mule
User ID: 0534004 Jul 30th 9:08 PM
I've read it. I don't want to go into detail in case others haven't until we see what others say. I enjoyed it more than the other prequels. I think in this one they came closer to creating their own story that ties to the Dune storyline, not trying to force fit a story line to the events just prior to DUNE. There are some things that I have problems with, I'm not entirely sure BH/KA's take on a computer mind is on target. I will read the next two books, hopefully they pay good attention to the timeline outlined in DUNE to tie it all together.

the mule

wirm Jul 31st 2:41 AM
I read the book when it came out. There were some discrepencies between what the original books said, and what this prequel said. Of course, since the stories have like 10,000 years between them, it's natural that some things might have been misremembered.

Anyway, I thought the story was ok. But I liked the House Atreides/Harkonnen/Corrino books a lot too. Unlike some of the hardcore Dune fans we find around here, I'm just happy to read more about Dune. Others can nitpick all they want, or complain about lack of complexity. I'll just be sitting there enjoying myself rather than complaining. :)

Thufir Jul 31st 5:40 PM
I read it, and liked it. I for one am curious to see the history of the Duniverse. Of course FH will never be matched, but I enjoy the prequels.

Nora FJ Jul 31st 5:56 PM
I agree with Thufir, wirm, and the mule on this one. The BJ is a good book, as the prequels go, but nothing will match the originals. I read the book when it first came out, and throughly enjoyed it. I am sure a lot of work went into it, seeing how long it is. Anyway, to answer DH's question, I plan on reading The MC and The Battle of Corrin (or whatever the title will be.) The BJ was certainly as good or better than all 3 of the House books, in my opinion...except maybe HC.

Oh, by the way, good question, DH Danmark.

*Nora FJ*

DH Danmark Aug 1st 1:59 PM
It seems like most people thinks BJ is the best prequel , I think so myself. It could be that it is simply so much far from Dune classic that the discrepencies isnt so bad. Still I hate the sorcess wannabe BG's :-(
I really dont want magic in my Dunebooks.

daz Aug 3rd 8:21 PM
i own the special edition dvd with which i think may be a version shown on tv rather than in the theatre. its realy irritating with this bloke doing the voice overs but it had a bit about the butlerian jahid in it which the original movie didnt. i only mention this as i wander how near the book this actualy was as i am a bit of a dune nerd.

Sniper
User ID: 0485244 Aug 22nd 5:16 AM
I think this book absolute crap. It's simply just an average sci-fi story, that has no place in the Dune univers. I thought the 3 first prequels were rather good but this one with its spiderlike cyborgs...please.

Vincent Dec 30th 8:04 AM
I agree with Sniper, to the point that the story is rather average - but perhaps we can grow into this new setting and it's characters?

I liked the other prequels a lot! They where well written, and the characters were recognizable - and "old friends" to me :-)

Maybe machine crusade and the battle for corrin will put this book in another light...

Crazy-Paul Jan 1st 5:18 PM
yea I loved all the Prequels... Waiting for the next one.. what is that?? something about the Battle of Corrin.. Excellent books! highly recommended! I still found a few of the later ORIGINAL Dune books to be incredibly boring... but maybe because I read them around age 12-13.. I had a great friend of our family that passed away.. named Allen who was really into Dune, he was very intrueging as a person! well i'll probably never see this incerpt again in my life! ADIOs

Blade Jun 19th 8:42 AM
I have read BJ and I thought it was really quite good. It is not the original Dune but it is good. I liked it as mush as the the other prequels. I am looking forward to reading the Machine Crusade and the Battle of Corrin.

Vorian
User ID: 9092003 Jun 24th 8:31 PM
I really loved BJ. I couldn't put it down once I started. It's not the same as the original Dune, but half of the experience was knowing where they ended up in the future, and recognizing the paths they go along. I can't wait to see what kind of conflict grows from BJ/MC to create the Harkonnen/Atredies feud. Perhaps Serena and Vorian marry?

Blade Jul 15th 11:17 AM
I hate to break it to you Vorian but if Vorian and Serena married that would not be the cause of the Atreides Harkonnen feud. At the Battle of Corrin bridge a son of Xavier Harkonnen ran from battle opting to save himself than fight for the human race. The Atreides got the Harkonnens banished for this cowardice and that was how the Harkonnen vendetta against house Atreides was brought about. I also don't think Vorian and Serena would marry because for one thing at the end of BJ she lost interest in romantic relationships and just wanted to destroy the machines. Plus Vorian was given cell augmentation by Agamemnon so that he would live alot longer than any normal human being meaning he would outlive his grand children and i don't see why he would want to engage in that kind of relationship when he would outlive his own family,but than agian this is the Dune Universe so anything is possible.

Freakzilla
User ID: 7789183 Jul 22nd 7:56 AM
I liked it... as fan fiction.

Looking to get my hads on MC now.

Guildsman
User ID: 2477284 Jul 23rd 1:18 AM
If what Blade said about the Harkonnen-Atreides feud can be considered canon, it would have lasted over ten millenia. Therefore, the feud was awesome. :)

Blade Sep 17th 1:48 PM
Guildsman in the Dune series it is said that is how the Atreides-Harkonen Feud started but I will have to read the Battle of Corrino to be sure

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DH Danmark	Jul 30th 2:43 PM It seems to me (if im looking at the posts in these topics) that only a few in here have read the Jihad book. Som my question is. Who have read it? Yoyr opinion about it (compareed to teh other preqs maybe) and are you going to read Machine crusade? (Yeah I know that there is one topic "The Jihad" about this, but still its long dead) (Argh, please forum be alive... Oh by the way, when have anyone last heard a word form the Admin, is he never going to make somthing out of this homepage again?)
the mule User ID: 0534004	Jul 30th 9:08 PM I've read it. I don't want to go into detail in case others haven't until we see what others say. I enjoyed it more than the other prequels. I think in this one they came closer to creating their own story that ties to the Dune storyline, not trying to force fit a story line to the events just prior to DUNE. There are some things that I have problems with, I'm not entirely sure BH/KA's take on a computer mind is on target. I will read the next two books, hopefully they pay good attention to the timeline outlined in DUNE to tie it all together. the mule
wirm	Jul 31st 2:41 AM I read the book when it came out. There were some discrepencies between what the original books said, and what this prequel said. Of course, since the stories have like 10,000 years between them, it's natural that some things might have been misremembered. Anyway, I thought the story was ok. But I liked the House Atreides/Harkonnen/Corrino books a lot too. Unlike some of the hardcore Dune fans we find around here, I'm just happy to read more about Dune. Others can nitpick all they want, or complain about lack of complexity. I'll just be sitting there enjoying myself rather than complaining. :)
Thufir	Jul 31st 5:40 PM I read it, and liked it. I for one am curious to see the history of the Duniverse. Of course FH will never be matched, but I enjoy the prequels.
Nora FJ	Jul 31st 5:56 PM I agree with Thufir, wirm, and the mule on this one. The BJ is a good book, as the prequels go, but nothing will match the originals. I read the book when it first came out, and throughly enjoyed it. I am sure a lot of work went into it, seeing how long it is. Anyway, to answer DH's question, I plan on reading The MC and The Battle of Corrin (or whatever the title will be.) The BJ was certainly as good or better than all 3 of the House books, in my opinion...except maybe HC. Oh, by the way, good question, DH Danmark. Nora FJ
DH Danmark	Aug 1st 1:59 PM It seems like most people thinks BJ is the best prequel , I think so myself. It could be that it is simply so much far from Dune classic that the discrepencies isnt so bad. Still I hate the sorcess wannabe BG's :-( I really dont want magic in my Dunebooks.
daz	Aug 3rd 8:21 PM i own the special edition dvd with which i think may be a version shown on tv rather than in the theatre. its realy irritating with this bloke doing the voice overs but it had a bit about the butlerian jahid in it which the original movie didnt. i only mention this as i wander how near the book this actualy was as i am a bit of a dune nerd.
Sniper User ID: 0485244	Aug 22nd 5:16 AM I think this book absolute crap. It's simply just an average sci-fi story, that has no place in the Dune univers. I thought the 3 first prequels were rather good but this one with its spiderlike cyborgs...please.
Vincent	Dec 30th 8:04 AM I agree with Sniper, to the point that the story is rather average - but perhaps we can grow into this new setting and it's characters? I liked the other prequels a lot! They where well written, and the characters were recognizable - and "old friends" to me :-) Maybe machine crusade and the battle for corrin will put this book in another light...
Crazy-Paul	Jan 1st 5:18 PM yea I loved all the Prequels... Waiting for the next one.. what is that?? something about the Battle of Corrin.. Excellent books! highly recommended! I still found a few of the later ORIGINAL Dune books to be incredibly boring... but maybe because I read them around age 12-13.. I had a great friend of our family that passed away.. named Allen who was really into Dune, he was very intrueging as a person! well i'll probably never see this incerpt again in my life! ADIOs
Blade	Jun 19th 8:42 AM I have read BJ and I thought it was really quite good. It is not the original Dune but it is good. I liked it as mush as the the other prequels. I am looking forward to reading the Machine Crusade and the Battle of Corrin.
Vorian User ID: 9092003	Jun 24th 8:31 PM I really loved BJ. I couldn't put it down once I started. It's not the same as the original Dune, but half of the experience was knowing where they ended up in the future, and recognizing the paths they go along. I can't wait to see what kind of conflict grows from BJ/MC to create the Harkonnen/Atredies feud. Perhaps Serena and Vorian marry?
Blade	Jul 15th 11:17 AM I hate to break it to you Vorian but if Vorian and Serena married that would not be the cause of the Atreides Harkonnen feud. At the Battle of Corrin bridge a son of Xavier Harkonnen ran from battle opting to save himself than fight for the human race. The Atreides got the Harkonnens banished for this cowardice and that was how the Harkonnen vendetta against house Atreides was brought about. I also don't think Vorian and Serena would marry because for one thing at the end of BJ she lost interest in romantic relationships and just wanted to destroy the machines. Plus Vorian was given cell augmentation by Agamemnon so that he would live alot longer than any normal human being meaning he would outlive his grand children and i don't see why he would want to engage in that kind of relationship when he would outlive his own family,but than agian this is the Dune Universe so anything is possible.
Freakzilla User ID: 7789183	Jul 22nd 7:56 AM I liked it... as fan fiction. Looking to get my hads on MC now.
Guildsman User ID: 2477284	Jul 23rd 1:18 AM If what Blade said about the Harkonnen-Atreides feud can be considered canon, it would have lasted over ten millenia. Therefore, the feud was awesome. :)
Blade	Sep 17th 1:48 PM Guildsman in the Dune series it is said that is how the Atreides-Harkonen Feud started but I will have to read the Battle of Corrino to be sure
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