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Scytale
User ID: 8409173 May 25th 6:26 AM
Dune vs The Lord of the Rings? Anybody? Actually, let's make this more interesting: Dune vs The Lord of the Rings vs The Stand vs The Princess Bride vs Harry Potter? You can add Star Wars to that list as well if you like. Any thoughts? You don't have to have read all these books to contribute to this topic.

Aspect of Shade May 25th 11:04 AM
Ok... this isn't fair realy (since Dune is my Bible and the others are just books) but... lets give it a go.

Dune :: Number one anything - 'nuff said

LotR :: Don't like it, good story, but that's it. Its sucess is what ruined todays fantasy genre.

The Stand :: ?

The Princess Bride :: Ok, I only saw the movie, I admit it. But the movie was good, only good, book prolly better.

Harry Potter :: Yeah, this is probly the best thing to happen to childrens litterature. You have to give it some credit. Though I here the next book got sent back for rewrite many many times.

Star Wars :: Star Wars has an important part to play in history, and a lot of credit to take, but really its just a really good trilogy. I've yet to pass judgment on the new ones.

Really if your going to go on comparing mortal books too Dune you should at least pick something a little off. The Book or the New Sun would be my choice. ( I think I saw it in a very old post someplace. I've been lurking for a while, you know. )

Vandevere
User ID: 2066234 May 25th 5:47 PM
My take is that "Dune" is the top of its form for Sci-Fi.

"Lord of the Rings" is the top of its form for Fantasy.

They are equally good...

Vandevere

Anniscousin
User ID: 8861793 May 25th 9:25 PM
Dune is by far the best of the books mentioned! I really like 'The Stand' though, even though Steven King seems to have some obsession with describing in detail every character's past life. I really couldn't get into 'The Lord of the Rings.' I don't know why. I just wasn't interested, I guess. Harry Potter is great. It's getting my six year old into reading, at least. My five year old likes to read 'Dune' over my shoulder, though! the Princess Bride wasn't very good, I thought, but that's MHO. But the, when compared to Dune, everything else pales in comparision.

Anniscousin

Robin H. May 26th 6:21 AM
No surprise here, Dune being my all-time favorite.
The Stand was excellent but if I had to choose a book by SK to compete Dune, it would be the Dark Tower Series. Those are excellent and were real competitors for my attention when I had to choose whether to reread them or Dune.

Scytale
User ID: 8409173 May 26th 10:24 AM
"...the others are just books." I like that, Aspect of Shade. Yes, definitely I agree with all of you. Nothing compares to Dune; Dune is Shakespeare in space.

Scytale
User ID: 8409173 May 27th 5:58 AM
If you liked Stephen King's The Stand you'll love Frank Herbert's The White Plague.

Vandevere: LOTR & Dune "equally good."

Okay, so far as I expected. Let me just update this: Dune vs The Lord of the Rings vs The Stand vs The Princess Bride vs Harry Potter vs Star Wars vs The Dark Tower series vs The Book of the New Sun?

Mr Pants
User ID: 8409173 May 28th 3:28 AM
The White Plague is great! It's out of print - I got mine from Ebay. It's longer than Dune, and I can see why a lot of Frank Herbert fans think this his crowning achivement, and not Dune. Better than Dune? That depends on your taste. I think it's the only other book that Herbert wrote that can compete with Dune. The Lord of Rings? I never read it. Burp! What was the question again?

dogsolitude_uk
User ID: 0554384 May 28th 6:18 AM
LOTR - Jeez, the number of times I've tried to read it and just given up or got bored. The Shire is very similar to some of the places I grew up in, but even so I found it hard to really care about getting rid of a ring. I lose them all the time, so I had very little sympathy.

...And all that singing. And Tom Bombadil, what was all *that* about?

The New Sun stuff was pretty good, but again it was just one-event-after-another and didn't hold my interest much. I would like to know where Severian got his cloak from, though. Would look good at a Goth nightclub.

A bizarre book I read a while ago was Dhalgren. Prolly spelt the title wrong, it was by Samuel Delany. Huge great thick book about some guy wandering around a disaster-struck and smog-covered city where roads never seem to lead to the same place twice. That was interesting, if surreal read.

Mr Pants
User ID: 8409173 May 28th 2:07 PM
Those rings need to be flushed down the toilet and forgotten about quite frankly. I've got nothing against LOTR, it's just, well, those who prefer DUNE probably have superior minds...

No, just kidding! I'm sure it's great.

But if all these Tolkien fans read Dune, and all those Harry Potter fans - I think they'd realise what a superior work it is...and the world would be a better place.

dogsolitude_uk: that book you speak of...sounds interesting.

Anniscousin
User ID: 8861793 May 28th 7:37 PM
I started LotR just before the movie came out and had to take notes and take breaks because I kept falling asleep. I actually take it off the bookshelf when I need something to put me to sleep and it never fails. Dune keeps me up until the sun comes over the horizon.

Anniscousin

Mr Pants
User ID: 8409173 May 29th 10:30 AM
It makes a great doorstop.

dogsolitude_uk
User ID: 9683713 May 29th 11:17 AM
Believe me, Mr Pants, it was. Especially when the smog cleared to reveal a huge swollen sun and two moons... Brrrr.

Loki May 29th 4:55 PM
Dune vs. LOTR humm if these 2 forces were to ever collide it would cause such a cataclysm that it would be comparable to godzilla fighting mecha-godzilla or maby just mothra..

Solarisy2k
User ID: 7608433 May 29th 5:50 PM
The LOTR movie suck rocks!! That movie could have been made 1 hour long and they just strecheddddddddd!!!!!!
Were Lynch's Dune (which I love) suffered because it was too short LOTR was too bloody longgg!!!!

Nora FJ
User ID: 0471064 May 29th 7:54 PM
I like:
1.) Dune
2.) 2001: A Space Oddessey, 2010 Oddessy 2, etc. by Arthur C. Clark
3.) The White Plauge is also very cool
4.) I read the Hobbit, but also couldn't get into the Lord of The Rings after that book

Nora FJ

Mr Pants
User ID: 8409173 May 30th 12:48 AM
Has anybody seen my pants? dogsolitude_uk: a huge swollen Sun, two moons and hopefully my pants.

Mr Pants
User ID: 8409173 May 30th 1:26 AM
Now where are my pants? I can't go out looking like this. Naked except for a pair of army boots and a copy of Dune.

I'll look ridiculous.

dogsolitude_uk
User ID: 0512724 May 30th 6:22 AM
I once lost two pairs of silk boxer shorts under very mysterious circumstances. I can only sympathise, Mr Pants.

Nora: I *still* can't get into LOTR. I've tried and tried, but I just don't give a damn about anything that happens in it. It's like reading a sort of travel brochure - there's no interdependence of environment, characters and events... And the ruddy singing all the time...

The Space Odyssey books were fantastic, though! ;)

Mr Pants
User ID: 8409173 May 30th 11:26 AM
Anyway, I found my pants. You'll be glad to know.

I've always wanted to read the Space Odyssey books as I'm a huge fan of the film. I'll have to read them.

...the singing in LOTR...who strangled the cat, man.

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Scytale User ID: 8409173	May 25th 6:26 AM Dune vs The Lord of the Rings? Anybody? Actually, let's make this more interesting: Dune vs The Lord of the Rings vs The Stand vs The Princess Bride vs Harry Potter? You can add Star Wars to that list as well if you like. Any thoughts? You don't have to have read all these books to contribute to this topic.
Aspect of Shade	May 25th 11:04 AM Ok... this isn't fair realy (since Dune is my Bible and the others are just books) but... lets give it a go. Dune :: Number one anything - 'nuff said LotR :: Don't like it, good story, but that's it. Its sucess is what ruined todays fantasy genre. The Stand :: ? The Princess Bride :: Ok, I only saw the movie, I admit it. But the movie was good, only good, book prolly better. Harry Potter :: Yeah, this is probly the best thing to happen to childrens litterature. You have to give it some credit. Though I here the next book got sent back for rewrite many many times. Star Wars :: Star Wars has an important part to play in history, and a lot of credit to take, but really its just a really good trilogy. I've yet to pass judgment on the new ones. Really if your going to go on comparing mortal books too Dune you should at least pick something a little off. The Book or the New Sun would be my choice. ( I think I saw it in a very old post someplace. I've been lurking for a while, you know. )
Vandevere User ID: 2066234	May 25th 5:47 PM My take is that "Dune" is the top of its form for Sci-Fi. "Lord of the Rings" is the top of its form for Fantasy. They are equally good... Vandevere
Anniscousin User ID: 8861793	May 25th 9:25 PM Dune is by far the best of the books mentioned! I really like 'The Stand' though, even though Steven King seems to have some obsession with describing in detail every character's past life. I really couldn't get into 'The Lord of the Rings.' I don't know why. I just wasn't interested, I guess. Harry Potter is great. It's getting my six year old into reading, at least. My five year old likes to read 'Dune' over my shoulder, though! the Princess Bride wasn't very good, I thought, but that's MHO. But the, when compared to Dune, everything else pales in comparision. Anniscousin
Robin H.	May 26th 6:21 AM No surprise here, Dune being my all-time favorite. The Stand was excellent but if I had to choose a book by SK to compete Dune, it would be the Dark Tower Series. Those are excellent and were real competitors for my attention when I had to choose whether to reread them or Dune.
Scytale User ID: 8409173	May 26th 10:24 AM "...the others are just books." I like that, Aspect of Shade. Yes, definitely I agree with all of you. Nothing compares to Dune; Dune is Shakespeare in space.
Scytale User ID: 8409173	May 27th 5:58 AM If you liked Stephen King's The Stand you'll love Frank Herbert's The White Plague. Vandevere: LOTR & Dune "equally good." Okay, so far as I expected. Let me just update this: Dune vs The Lord of the Rings vs The Stand vs The Princess Bride vs Harry Potter vs Star Wars vs The Dark Tower series vs The Book of the New Sun?
Mr Pants User ID: 8409173	May 28th 3:28 AM The White Plague is great! It's out of print - I got mine from Ebay. It's longer than Dune, and I can see why a lot of Frank Herbert fans think this his crowning achivement, and not Dune. Better than Dune? That depends on your taste. I think it's the only other book that Herbert wrote that can compete with Dune. The Lord of Rings? I never read it. Burp! What was the question again?
dogsolitude_uk User ID: 0554384	May 28th 6:18 AM LOTR - Jeez, the number of times I've tried to read it and just given up or got bored. The Shire is very similar to some of the places I grew up in, but even so I found it hard to really care about getting rid of a ring. I lose them all the time, so I had very little sympathy. ...And all that singing. And Tom Bombadil, what was all that about? The New Sun stuff was pretty good, but again it was just one-event-after-another and didn't hold my interest much. I would like to know where Severian got his cloak from, though. Would look good at a Goth nightclub. A bizarre book I read a while ago was Dhalgren. Prolly spelt the title wrong, it was by Samuel Delany. Huge great thick book about some guy wandering around a disaster-struck and smog-covered city where roads never seem to lead to the same place twice. That was interesting, if surreal read.
Mr Pants User ID: 8409173	May 28th 2:07 PM Those rings need to be flushed down the toilet and forgotten about quite frankly. I've got nothing against LOTR, it's just, well, those who prefer DUNE probably have superior minds... No, just kidding! I'm sure it's great. But if all these Tolkien fans read Dune, and all those Harry Potter fans - I think they'd realise what a superior work it is...and the world would be a better place. dogsolitude_uk: that book you speak of...sounds interesting.
Anniscousin User ID: 8861793	May 28th 7:37 PM I started LotR just before the movie came out and had to take notes and take breaks because I kept falling asleep. I actually take it off the bookshelf when I need something to put me to sleep and it never fails. Dune keeps me up until the sun comes over the horizon. Anniscousin
Mr Pants User ID: 8409173	May 29th 10:30 AM It makes a great doorstop.
dogsolitude_uk User ID: 9683713	May 29th 11:17 AM Believe me, Mr Pants, it was. Especially when the smog cleared to reveal a huge swollen sun and two moons... Brrrr.
Loki	May 29th 4:55 PM Dune vs. LOTR humm if these 2 forces were to ever collide it would cause such a cataclysm that it would be comparable to godzilla fighting mecha-godzilla or maby just mothra..
Solarisy2k User ID: 7608433	May 29th 5:50 PM The LOTR movie suck rocks!! That movie could have been made 1 hour long and they just strecheddddddddd!!!!!! Were Lynch's Dune (which I love) suffered because it was too short LOTR was too bloody longgg!!!!
Nora FJ User ID: 0471064	May 29th 7:54 PM I like: 1.) Dune 2.) 2001: A Space Oddessey, 2010 Oddessy 2, etc. by Arthur C. Clark 3.) The White Plauge is also very cool 4.) I read the Hobbit, but also couldn't get into the Lord of The Rings after that book Nora FJ
Mr Pants User ID: 8409173	May 30th 12:48 AM Has anybody seen my pants? dogsolitude_uk: a huge swollen Sun, two moons and hopefully my pants.
Mr Pants User ID: 8409173	May 30th 1:26 AM Now where are my pants? I can't go out looking like this. Naked except for a pair of army boots and a copy of Dune. I'll look ridiculous.
dogsolitude_uk User ID: 0512724	May 30th 6:22 AM I once lost two pairs of silk boxer shorts under very mysterious circumstances. I can only sympathise, Mr Pants. Nora: I still can't get into LOTR. I've tried and tried, but I just don't give a damn about anything that happens in it. It's like reading a sort of travel brochure - there's no interdependence of environment, characters and events... And the ruddy singing all the time... The Space Odyssey books were fantastic, though! ;)
Mr Pants User ID: 8409173	May 30th 11:26 AM Anyway, I found my pants. You'll be glad to know. I've always wanted to read the Space Odyssey books as I'm a huge fan of the film. I'll have to read them. ...the singing in LOTR...who strangled the cat, man.