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Dune House Atreides / Dune Mini-Series / I liked it

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Cairon
User ID: 0366544 Jun 23rd 3:19 AM

I really did.

I'm not saying it was the most perfect mini-series I've ever seen, but it certainly wasn't the worst. It also showed Dune in a different light, it was inviting new people to experience the story. I think that's why I liked it so much, because it was open to anyone and everyone. The Lynch version could only be truly enjoyed if you had read the book, it wasn't accesible to newbies. I remember seeing the movie first and I was absolutely lost, after I saw it a second time things started making sense, but it was still pretty vague, it was after I've read the book that I could completely understand the movie.

I've heard people say that they it was the mini-series that convinced them to start reading the books.

I didn't expect the Mini series to be completely the same as the book, that's impossible, so when they changed the story I wasn't annoyed by it. I accepted it, and in a certain way, I embraced it. It's entertainment, I really enjoyed watching it, just because it was Dune.

I liked it, I really did, not because of the quality (which I still think was high for a mini-series... I mean, have you seen those biblical mini-series like Noah's Ark... *shudder*) but because of the fact that it was Dune and that it probably got a lot more people reading the books.

I gained more than I lost with this mini-series.

Zig
User ID: 9774843 Jun 23rd 4:57 AM
Tell me how you really feel Cairon!!! P.S. I will admit I too liked it!!!

Ending Dream 23
User ID: 9391453 Jun 24th 11:19 AM
I'll admit that was a good defense of the mini.

Ommun
User ID: 9990163 Jun 25th 3:45 AM
Good above par...but I wished that the designers ommitted the triangle on Feyd's back, Irulan with blonde hair and the funny-looking imperial customes worn by Paul's entourage at the end of the series. Thumbs-up for the Sardaukar customs and Fremen robes.

MargoZ
User ID: 1460434 Jun 25th 4:59 AM
That's just details you know. Each director wants to put a little of his own into his production right? For Harrison it might just have been the costumes. Overall, the mini was excellent.

Ending Dream 23
User ID: 9391453 Jun 25th 12:52 PM
Forget that there both about Dune - pretend you don't care about which one is more like that book. Pretend you never even heard the word Dune until you watched the movie and mini.

Now can you still say that the mini is even remotely good? It really dosen't stand on its own. It's just not entertaining.

Cairon
User ID: 0366544 Jun 27th 11:25 AM
yes I can say the mini series is good. Because it's friendlier to those who are completely new to the Duniverse.

MargoZ
User ID: 1460434 Jun 28th 10:01 AM
Exactly. For most people, the books are too complex to grasp at first and a somewhat easier introduction into Dune is required. The Lynch version was quite complex as well, more like the books and it couldn't have served for an intro, simply because you had to have known the books to get the film. The series on the other hand does something else - its meant to get you interested in the novel(s) after you see it.

Greg Smith
User ID: 9293943 Jun 30th 2:14 PM
I hated it. The characters were horrific and Paul is never a spoiled brat....yet that's what he was here. Only Jessica was accurate. Stillgar was pathetic. I litterally felt sick and was unable to watch most of it.

Frank is still twisting in his grave.

Leto's tooth deal was actually comical.

Ending Dream 23
User ID: 9391453 Jul 1st 11:13 AM
A chum of mine who has no knoledge of Dune whatsoever bought the mini and had me come over to watch it. Ok this was going to be the second time..... I left 15 minutes into it. I just get so PISSED while watching it.

greg smith
User ID: 9293943 Jul 2nd 5:40 PM
exactly.

Wolverine
User ID: 7350653 Jul 2nd 9:25 PM
Call me a wuss, I saw things that I liked and disliked in both. I think the miniseries wins on points, but it's close.

David Lynch did get one thing right: he did a great job of conveying the paranoia of imperial politics. I liked his sets and costumes, but his script was a mess. If you hadn't read the book you were lost and even if you had things went way too fast. The Smithee version fixes some of the flaws, but even there Paul goes from outsider to Fremen leader almost instantaneously, blowing over one the most interesting section of the book. I realize this isn't entirely Lynch's fault -- the time constraints were forced on him, and then once the studio realized they had an incoherent mess they cobbled together their own version so they would have something to syndicate. Hey, nobody said Hollywood was pretty.

The miniseries was slightly better. The sets were kinda cheesy at times (Vaguely reminiscent of the original Star Trek series -- I half expected to see Captain Kirk wander in and start hitting on Irulan) and the hats the Bene Gesserit wore were laughable. On the other hand, they had more time to actually tell the story and for the most part used it well. They really took time to work out Paul's rise among the Fremen.

Sci-fi is tough to transfer from book to screen, especially if the story has as many dedicated fans as Dune does. The two most successful Sci-fi story lines started out on TV (Star Trek) or film (Star Wars) so when Roddenberry unveiled the Enterprise he didn't have millions of fans checking to see if his starship was true to the one in the books. So I shouldn't have been surprised that there have been two shots at Dune and neither is entirely satisfactory.

Kaiser
User ID: 1042384 Jul 3rd 12:11 AM
WOW! I can't believe im actually not the only person who liked the Sardaukar costumes in the miniseries!

This must be a dream........

Alia
User ID: 1460434 Jul 3rd 5:01 AM
You in for that MerchantOfVenice look? :)

Kaiser
User ID: 1042384 Jul 3rd 3:22 PM
I'm a sucker for extravagance ;)

Turok
User ID: 8848403 Aug 5th 12:13 AM
Hey, hey, come one! The Sardaukar costumes are good enough to show that they are elite soldiers whose prowess include martial arts, swordsmanship and using lasguns. Well, the original design of the Sardaukar by David Lynch's film suits the idea that they are protecting themselves from radiation attack and projectiles. But certainly, the ms conveys a better and logical design of soldiers whose prowess includes martial arts.

Merchant of Venice? Perhaps the cap makes it a bit funny.

Vince
User ID: 2100804 Aug 19th 6:04 PM
Well drats, I guess I'm the only one who really loved the miniseries.

Seriously, don't ya think that people take this a bit too seriously? I mean, I'm as much a sci-fi fan as the next person.

But when someone says "Such-and-such a person couldn't play the character right" or "The miniseries characters weren't right", don't ya think that's a matter of perception?

Personally, I thought the miniseries had excellent characters. That's pretty much how I envisioned them when I read the books. Now granted, I saw the miniseries before I read the books, so I admit that it probably shaped my perceptions when I read the book. But isn't it possible that someone could read the book first and envision the characters basically as the miniseries presented them?

Isn't it ultimately a matter of perception? One person says the miniseries screwed up, while another person will say it hit the nail on the head.

(BTW, I also saw the Lynch movie BEFORE I read the books, and I really didn't envision the characters that way, especially the Baron.)

Turok
User ID: 0965344 Aug 31st 10:10 PM
Hey Vince,

Do you think you're the only one? There are legions of fans out there, including me, who are fanatic fans of the miniseries. Nobody's perfect enough to convey the original ideas of the original book but John Harrison did fine anyway.

I like the ms simply because it shows the real world of Dune: the robed Fremen, the city of Arrakeen, the accurate picture of the dreaded Fedaykin, the Maker Hooks, the powerful martial arts, the accurate weirding way, the real pictures of the Sardaukar, the real irritable Shaddam IV and finally, the messy battle of Arrakeen.

But of course, we cannot make everything perfect. Things just have to divert sometimes to make a way for another purpose to be done. Well, when the blind Paul tried to stop the vision of his son, Leto, he could not. What did he do? He joined him. If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

MargoU,Grim,Alia
User ID: 1523284 Sep 1st 8:56 AM
We thought the series was excellent! It has its flaws, but also its assets - as does Lynch's film... Btw, anyone ever get a look at the Jodoryvsky project?

Kaiser
User ID: 0826264 Sep 1st 9:57 AM
My name is Kaiser and I loved the Dune Miniseries!

The Sardaukar uniforms rocked, the only thing I wouldve changed is made their hat a beret instead the floppy thing.....

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Cairon User ID: 0366544	Jun 23rd 3:19 AM I really did. I'm not saying it was the most perfect mini-series I've ever seen, but it certainly wasn't the worst. It also showed Dune in a different light, it was inviting new people to experience the story. I think that's why I liked it so much, because it was open to anyone and everyone. The Lynch version could only be truly enjoyed if you had read the book, it wasn't accesible to newbies. I remember seeing the movie first and I was absolutely lost, after I saw it a second time things started making sense, but it was still pretty vague, it was after I've read the book that I could completely understand the movie. I've heard people say that they it was the mini-series that convinced them to start reading the books. I didn't expect the Mini series to be completely the same as the book, that's impossible, so when they changed the story I wasn't annoyed by it. I accepted it, and in a certain way, I embraced it. It's entertainment, I really enjoyed watching it, just because it was Dune. I liked it, I really did, not because of the quality (which I still think was high for a mini-series... I mean, have you seen those biblical mini-series like Noah's Ark... shudder) but because of the fact that it was Dune and that it probably got a lot more people reading the books. I gained more than I lost with this mini-series.
Zig User ID: 9774843	Jun 23rd 4:57 AM Tell me how you really feel Cairon!!! P.S. I will admit I too liked it!!!
Ending Dream 23 User ID: 9391453	Jun 24th 11:19 AM I'll admit that was a good defense of the mini.
Ommun User ID: 9990163	Jun 25th 3:45 AM Good above par...but I wished that the designers ommitted the triangle on Feyd's back, Irulan with blonde hair and the funny-looking imperial customes worn by Paul's entourage at the end of the series. Thumbs-up for the Sardaukar customs and Fremen robes.
MargoZ User ID: 1460434	Jun 25th 4:59 AM That's just details you know. Each director wants to put a little of his own into his production right? For Harrison it might just have been the costumes. Overall, the mini was excellent.
Ending Dream 23 User ID: 9391453	Jun 25th 12:52 PM Forget that there both about Dune - pretend you don't care about which one is more like that book. Pretend you never even heard the word Dune until you watched the movie and mini. Now can you still say that the mini is even remotely good? It really dosen't stand on its own. It's just not entertaining.
Cairon User ID: 0366544	Jun 27th 11:25 AM yes I can say the mini series is good. Because it's friendlier to those who are completely new to the Duniverse.
MargoZ User ID: 1460434	Jun 28th 10:01 AM Exactly. For most people, the books are too complex to grasp at first and a somewhat easier introduction into Dune is required. The Lynch version was quite complex as well, more like the books and it couldn't have served for an intro, simply because you had to have known the books to get the film. The series on the other hand does something else - its meant to get you interested in the novel(s) after you see it.
Greg Smith User ID: 9293943	Jun 30th 2:14 PM I hated it. The characters were horrific and Paul is never a spoiled brat....yet that's what he was here. Only Jessica was accurate. Stillgar was pathetic. I litterally felt sick and was unable to watch most of it. Frank is still twisting in his grave. Leto's tooth deal was actually comical.
Ending Dream 23 User ID: 9391453	Jul 1st 11:13 AM A chum of mine who has no knoledge of Dune whatsoever bought the mini and had me come over to watch it. Ok this was going to be the second time..... I left 15 minutes into it. I just get so PISSED while watching it.
greg smith User ID: 9293943	Jul 2nd 5:40 PM exactly.
Wolverine User ID: 7350653	Jul 2nd 9:25 PM Call me a wuss, I saw things that I liked and disliked in both. I think the miniseries wins on points, but it's close. David Lynch did get one thing right: he did a great job of conveying the paranoia of imperial politics. I liked his sets and costumes, but his script was a mess. If you hadn't read the book you were lost and even if you had things went way too fast. The Smithee version fixes some of the flaws, but even there Paul goes from outsider to Fremen leader almost instantaneously, blowing over one the most interesting section of the book. I realize this isn't entirely Lynch's fault -- the time constraints were forced on him, and then once the studio realized they had an incoherent mess they cobbled together their own version so they would have something to syndicate. Hey, nobody said Hollywood was pretty. The miniseries was slightly better. The sets were kinda cheesy at times (Vaguely reminiscent of the original Star Trek series -- I half expected to see Captain Kirk wander in and start hitting on Irulan) and the hats the Bene Gesserit wore were laughable. On the other hand, they had more time to actually tell the story and for the most part used it well. They really took time to work out Paul's rise among the Fremen. Sci-fi is tough to transfer from book to screen, especially if the story has as many dedicated fans as Dune does. The two most successful Sci-fi story lines started out on TV (Star Trek) or film (Star Wars) so when Roddenberry unveiled the Enterprise he didn't have millions of fans checking to see if his starship was true to the one in the books. So I shouldn't have been surprised that there have been two shots at Dune and neither is entirely satisfactory.
Kaiser User ID: 1042384	Jul 3rd 12:11 AM WOW! I can't believe im actually not the only person who liked the Sardaukar costumes in the miniseries! This must be a dream........
Alia User ID: 1460434	Jul 3rd 5:01 AM You in for that MerchantOfVenice look? :)
Kaiser User ID: 1042384	Jul 3rd 3:22 PM I'm a sucker for extravagance ;)
Turok User ID: 8848403	Aug 5th 12:13 AM Hey, hey, come one! The Sardaukar costumes are good enough to show that they are elite soldiers whose prowess include martial arts, swordsmanship and using lasguns. Well, the original design of the Sardaukar by David Lynch's film suits the idea that they are protecting themselves from radiation attack and projectiles. But certainly, the ms conveys a better and logical design of soldiers whose prowess includes martial arts. Merchant of Venice? Perhaps the cap makes it a bit funny.
Vince User ID: 2100804	Aug 19th 6:04 PM Well drats, I guess I'm the only one who really loved the miniseries. Seriously, don't ya think that people take this a bit too seriously? I mean, I'm as much a sci-fi fan as the next person. But when someone says "Such-and-such a person couldn't play the character right" or "The miniseries characters weren't right", don't ya think that's a matter of perception? Personally, I thought the miniseries had excellent characters. That's pretty much how I envisioned them when I read the books. Now granted, I saw the miniseries before I read the books, so I admit that it probably shaped my perceptions when I read the book. But isn't it possible that someone could read the book first and envision the characters basically as the miniseries presented them? Isn't it ultimately a matter of perception? One person says the miniseries screwed up, while another person will say it hit the nail on the head. (BTW, I also saw the Lynch movie BEFORE I read the books, and I really didn't envision the characters that way, especially the Baron.)
Turok User ID: 0965344	Aug 31st 10:10 PM Hey Vince, Do you think you're the only one? There are legions of fans out there, including me, who are fanatic fans of the miniseries. Nobody's perfect enough to convey the original ideas of the original book but John Harrison did fine anyway. I like the ms simply because it shows the real world of Dune: the robed Fremen, the city of Arrakeen, the accurate picture of the dreaded Fedaykin, the Maker Hooks, the powerful martial arts, the accurate weirding way, the real pictures of the Sardaukar, the real irritable Shaddam IV and finally, the messy battle of Arrakeen. But of course, we cannot make everything perfect. Things just have to divert sometimes to make a way for another purpose to be done. Well, when the blind Paul tried to stop the vision of his son, Leto, he could not. What did he do? He joined him. If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.
MargoU,Grim,Alia User ID: 1523284	Sep 1st 8:56 AM We thought the series was excellent! It has its flaws, but also its assets - as does Lynch's film... Btw, anyone ever get a look at the Jodoryvsky project?
Kaiser User ID: 0826264	Sep 1st 9:57 AM My name is Kaiser and I loved the Dune Miniseries! The Sardaukar uniforms rocked, the only thing I wouldve changed is made their hat a beret instead the floppy thing.....