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Dune House Atreides / Dune Mini-Series / Casting: Oscar Winner to Play Lady J?

BaronMoritani Mar 13th 9:59 AM
We also have pix of the new Alia here:

http://communities.msn.com/TheLandsraad/_whatsnew.msnw

Who else is getting really excited about the new mini?

Vandevere
User ID: 2066234 Mar 13th 8:18 PM
I'm getting excited. But, I wish they'd refrain from changing the cast around like this. I thought the first Jessica-unfortunately, I forget her name-was just fine...

Duncan too...

What's next?

A new Chani and a new Irulan?

Vandevere

BaronMoritani Mar 13th 9:18 PM
I understand what you mean.

There is a new Stilgar cast as well, but they haven't released the name yet.

Vandevere
User ID: 2066234 Mar 13th 11:37 PM
Oh Crikey...

Y'know, the reason THIS is happening is because the first Mini was so successful that TPTB can hire bigger names this time-success means bigger budget, and bigger budget ALWAYS translates into bigger names. In this case, it ain't neccessary. But they're gonna do it anyway...

Grrr...

Vandevere

BaronMoritani Mar 14th 9:02 AM
I understand your feelings.

Where were all the stars, when Harrison announced he was doing the first miniseries?

Solarisy2k
User ID: 2338204 Mar 14th 6:29 PM
Indeed.I can say that one of the strong points of the mini were the actors mostly unknowns ( except for the Emperor and Baron Harkkonen).This is a totaly unnecesary recasting.Specialy recasting Duncan.tha actor that played Duncan read the Dune novels up to God Emperor.He understands Duncan.Very unfair.Lets see what transpires.Scifi channel should Know better.If Dune mini was their highest rating show to date, DO NOT FIX WHAT IS NOT BROKEN!!!!!!!!!

Ending Dream 23
User ID: 9795313 Mar 15th 12:03 AM
I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to disagree. The acting in the mini was what made it a show of poor quality. I think that maybe with some better actors we might get something we can be proud of. I for one look forward to seeing how these changes pan out.

dogsolitude_uk
User ID: 1049474 Mar 15th 5:59 AM
I know there's a lot of disagreement as to the quality of the miniseries, and I think that the one thing we all have to remember is that they aren't in any way *deleting* what is already there.

I agree with Dream that the acting wasn't awesome, but it certainly wasn't helped by budgetry constraints, either! If the acting is so-so, then it will just look worse on unconvincing desert backdrops.

BTW, can we have a new Gurney as well?

Oh, and Stilgar needs long hair and a beard, like in the illustrated edition of Dune...

dogsolitude_uk
User ID: 1049474 Mar 15th 6:03 AM
...Hang on, just though of something else that might be relevent.

No matter how good an actor is, if he's wearing a silly hat the acting always looks worse. Maybe some costume changes might be in order too!

Vandevere
User ID: 2066234 Mar 15th 6:38 PM
We all know TPTB will change the cast...and change it yet again...But the one thing they will absolutely refuse to change will-of COURSE!!-be the costumes...

Retiring to snarl somewhere in privacy...

Vandevere

Ending Dream 23
User ID: 9795313 Mar 15th 8:57 PM
It did look pretty silly.

Solarisy2k
User ID: 1105234 Mar 16th 8:47 AM
In this point I agree.The Bene Geserets and Saudukar uniforms were totaly wrong.This is a point that everybody has to agree.See Lynchs Dune and compare.DL Dune costumes were awesome.Lets see what happens in this respect in the next Mini.

Vandevere
User ID: 2066234 Mar 16th 6:28 PM
True. While I have deep and abiding issues with Mr Lynch over little things like "weirding modules", his costumes were exactly as the book described them. When I looked at Leto I, Jessica, and Paul as they were preparing to leave Arrakis, they looked perfectly like a royal family from the late nineteenth century. Even to Leto carrying a smell lapdog. That whole particular image was absolutely perfect.

Unlike the mini with its New Age take on what was Haute Coutere for Imperial-and "merely" noble families...

Someoneplease give these royal persons just a little common sense-not to mention good taste-in Royalwear...

Vandevere

LMan
User ID: 1042384 Mar 18th 12:00 PM
About the Stilgar actor (Uwe Ochsenknecht) He's pretty famous here in Germany, and might be known to the international public from his performance in Wolfgang Petersen's "Das Boot".

I actually liked his performance in the miniseries, but the general acting was kwite poor. :)

dogsolitude_uk
User ID: 8743893 Mar 20th 6:33 AM
Ahhhh.... I seeee....

I do agree with you on his performance, though. Definitely one of the better actors.

Still, on the costumes front, I spose fashions will probably change between Dune and CoD. I wouldn't be caught dead wearing some early 80's creation, so maybe high fashion in Cod will be a bit more Lynchian... Here's hoping, anyway.

Besides, Star Trek series have differing costumes and uniforms, and Will Riker occasionally has a beard ;)

dogsolitude_uk
User ID: 9921013 Mar 27th 4:27 AM
Hang on, wasn't Jurgen Prochnow (the actor who played Leto in Lynch's Dune) also in Das Boot?

Solarisy2k
User ID: 0617234 Mar 29th 8:08 PM
Indeed.He has also been on The Seven Sign (he played a great part but I will not say who was his character just in case anybody decides to see it) and Judge Dreed.

atreides
User ID: 0471064 Mar 29th 8:33 PM
I too thought the costumes were true to the book in David Lynch's movie, but the castles and all the rooms were dark and dreary. According to the prequels, Castle Caladan is a bright, happy place. I liked the mini-series better than the first movie. Some of the headdresses in the mini series were pretty far out. I think the mini-series had a better Jessica, Paul, Gurney, Thufir, and Duncan. By the way Vandevere, Saskia Reeves played Jessica. I thought she was great in the mini-series. William Hurt didn't resemble Leto like Jurgen Prochnow did according to the prequels, but he was still a good Leto. He's cool. Since I read HA, HH and HC, i'm re-reading them. I notice a lot of details I missed. See ya,

atreides

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BaronMoritani	Mar 13th 9:59 AM We also have pix of the new Alia here: http://communities.msn.com/TheLandsraad/_whatsnew.msnw Who else is getting really excited about the new mini?
Vandevere User ID: 2066234	Mar 13th 8:18 PM I'm getting excited. But, I wish they'd refrain from changing the cast around like this. I thought the first Jessica-unfortunately, I forget her name-was just fine... Duncan too... What's next? A new Chani and a new Irulan? Vandevere
BaronMoritani	Mar 13th 9:18 PM I understand what you mean. There is a new Stilgar cast as well, but they haven't released the name yet.
Vandevere User ID: 2066234	Mar 13th 11:37 PM Oh Crikey... Y'know, the reason THIS is happening is because the first Mini was so successful that TPTB can hire bigger names this time-success means bigger budget, and bigger budget ALWAYS translates into bigger names. In this case, it ain't neccessary. But they're gonna do it anyway... Grrr... Vandevere
BaronMoritani	Mar 14th 9:02 AM I understand your feelings. Where were all the stars, when Harrison announced he was doing the first miniseries?
Solarisy2k User ID: 2338204	Mar 14th 6:29 PM Indeed.I can say that one of the strong points of the mini were the actors mostly unknowns ( except for the Emperor and Baron Harkkonen).This is a totaly unnecesary recasting.Specialy recasting Duncan.tha actor that played Duncan read the Dune novels up to God Emperor.He understands Duncan.Very unfair.Lets see what transpires.Scifi channel should Know better.If Dune mini was their highest rating show to date, DO NOT FIX WHAT IS NOT BROKEN!!!!!!!!!
Ending Dream 23 User ID: 9795313	Mar 15th 12:03 AM I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to disagree. The acting in the mini was what made it a show of poor quality. I think that maybe with some better actors we might get something we can be proud of. I for one look forward to seeing how these changes pan out.
dogsolitude_uk User ID: 1049474	Mar 15th 5:59 AM I know there's a lot of disagreement as to the quality of the miniseries, and I think that the one thing we all have to remember is that they aren't in any way deleting what is already there. I agree with Dream that the acting wasn't awesome, but it certainly wasn't helped by budgetry constraints, either! If the acting is so-so, then it will just look worse on unconvincing desert backdrops. BTW, can we have a new Gurney as well? Oh, and Stilgar needs long hair and a beard, like in the illustrated edition of Dune...
dogsolitude_uk User ID: 1049474	Mar 15th 6:03 AM ...Hang on, just though of something else that might be relevent. No matter how good an actor is, if he's wearing a silly hat the acting always looks worse. Maybe some costume changes might be in order too!
Vandevere User ID: 2066234	Mar 15th 6:38 PM We all know TPTB will change the cast...and change it yet again...But the one thing they will absolutely refuse to change will-of COURSE!!-be the costumes... Retiring to snarl somewhere in privacy... Vandevere
Ending Dream 23 User ID: 9795313	Mar 15th 8:57 PM It did look pretty silly.
Solarisy2k User ID: 1105234	Mar 16th 8:47 AM In this point I agree.The Bene Geserets and Saudukar uniforms were totaly wrong.This is a point that everybody has to agree.See Lynchs Dune and compare.DL Dune costumes were awesome.Lets see what happens in this respect in the next Mini.
Vandevere User ID: 2066234	Mar 16th 6:28 PM True. While I have deep and abiding issues with Mr Lynch over little things like "weirding modules", his costumes were exactly as the book described them. When I looked at Leto I, Jessica, and Paul as they were preparing to leave Arrakis, they looked perfectly like a royal family from the late nineteenth century. Even to Leto carrying a smell lapdog. That whole particular image was absolutely perfect. Unlike the mini with its New Age take on what was Haute Coutere for Imperial-and "merely" noble families... Someoneplease give these royal persons just a little common sense-not to mention good taste-in Royalwear... Vandevere
LMan User ID: 1042384	Mar 18th 12:00 PM About the Stilgar actor (Uwe Ochsenknecht) He's pretty famous here in Germany, and might be known to the international public from his performance in Wolfgang Petersen's "Das Boot". I actually liked his performance in the miniseries, but the general acting was kwite poor. :)
dogsolitude_uk User ID: 8743893	Mar 20th 6:33 AM Ahhhh.... I seeee.... I do agree with you on his performance, though. Definitely one of the better actors. Still, on the costumes front, I spose fashions will probably change between Dune and CoD. I wouldn't be caught dead wearing some early 80's creation, so maybe high fashion in Cod will be a bit more Lynchian... Here's hoping, anyway. Besides, Star Trek series have differing costumes and uniforms, and Will Riker occasionally has a beard ;)
dogsolitude_uk User ID: 9921013	Mar 27th 4:27 AM Hang on, wasn't Jurgen Prochnow (the actor who played Leto in Lynch's Dune) also in Das Boot?
Solarisy2k User ID: 0617234	Mar 29th 8:08 PM Indeed.He has also been on The Seven Sign (he played a great part but I will not say who was his character just in case anybody decides to see it) and Judge Dreed.
atreides User ID: 0471064	Mar 29th 8:33 PM I too thought the costumes were true to the book in David Lynch's movie, but the castles and all the rooms were dark and dreary. According to the prequels, Castle Caladan is a bright, happy place. I liked the mini-series better than the first movie. Some of the headdresses in the mini series were pretty far out. I think the mini-series had a better Jessica, Paul, Gurney, Thufir, and Duncan. By the way Vandevere, Saskia Reeves played Jessica. I thought she was great in the mini-series. William Hurt didn't resemble Leto like Jurgen Prochnow did according to the prequels, but he was still a good Leto. He's cool. Since I read HA, HH and HC, i'm re-reading them. I notice a lot of details I missed. See ya, atreides