A Keiran Drug thread

[Hitman]

I dunno why but I think I'm always going to like drugs. It's embedded into my personality and I ain't ever forgetting it. And to be honest, I've had a lot of valuable and amazing experiences while under the influence of various substances and I’m not sure if I’d want to give those up. But in retrospect, trying heroin in BC wasn't very smart. It *seemed* like a good idea at the time..

[Hitman]

I've given up on quitting for now though. I've been in very deep these past few months and before I end up killing myself or losing my job I'm gonna focus on getting my shit together. So I'm turning to a legal opiate alternative that will keep me from getting sick and will satisfy my craving for drugs at no cost (thanks insurance!). It kinda sucks that I can't kick the habit but what can you do.

[Jake]

Mayhaps moving would help you out? You know, not knowing where to score, or having those reminders around you constantly

[Mandrang Ganon]

Acid fucks with you too much, even though that's pretty much the point. Depressants ftw.

[Dratini SE]

MAGGY IS AN ALCOHOLIC

[Mr. Adventure]

Kush, next time you are in Iran (or if you have pals who could pal it up) I'd love if you could procure some seeds of the native stuff for me.

Jake, my typing for you will have to wait until I'm on my computer.

[William]

See, now to me THAT is a douche bag thing to say.  But you know, I am not going to judge.  Just as I know Keiran is not the typical raver douche, I am not going to assume that you're the "every girl wants to fuck me" douche.

Yeah. I know the dude well enough to not make fun of him for this, even after using a word as strong as LOATHING to describe how much I hate ravers and rave culture. He got down with the LSD in an irresponsible and stupid manner for his first time, but you know, it was his first time! Good for him.

so

Luke2 is a wild and crazy kid with a strong Christian background. It was only a matter of time till we unleashed the rest of those demons. Wasn't his first drink at a boardcon? In the following years he's made threads about salvia, weed, and now acid. Those Chicago videos were annoying though; you looked like a sloppy half-drunk girl clamoring for everybody's attention at all times.

[William]

If only you were here Starr, justgot do e curing my first harvest

And I only did it there because I knew I could handle it and to shut my roommate up. Who are yo anyway Jake?

Cookie I think it did make the music more intense, but it just really made the whoever enviroment much more intense. There is totally q vibe at these things that is awesome, there are a large amount of superficial annoying people there, I didn't have anything but positive vibes from everyone. It was quite an experiance.

I'll type up my thoughts on e in a bit hitty

baby, baby i wanna lowercase my life
this shift key is anathema
(it's all your fault)

[Starr]

As much as I heart both electronica and ecstasy, I've never been to a real rave...

[shawn]

Back in the early 2000s there were a bunch of new synthesized drugs people lumped together and called research chemicals. They were so new that they were not yet illegal, and with little effort could be ordered off the internet. Some of these drugs weren't entirely dangerous, but some of them were increadibly dangerous. The 2-c family is one great to study. 4-acetoxy(ho as well)-DiPT is fun, and hardly dangerous. Then there are substances like DPT and foxy-methoxy. People took these substances at places like raves- many times being told it's acid. It's the people that died or had violent seizures that opened the public's eye, and made these substances strictly illegal.

Several problems are associated with street drugs: their unknown purity and their unknown strength. Because of its extreme cheapness and potency, the purity of LSD in blotter form is not an issue: either it's lsd or untreated paper. The purity of powders, pills, and liquids cannot be assumed as safe. With regards to uncertain strength, the strength of hits these days is low, 100 micrograms or so. One should be careful and assume that the smallest square in a tiling of a sheet is a dose, even if a printed pattern covers several. An experienced person could judge the strength of a dose, and if it is assumed all doses on a sheet have been processed equivalently, those doses would be calibrated for others, much like anything else.

From _Psychedelic Chemistry_ by M.V.Smith, 2nd edition p 5:

"There is a great deal of superstition regarding purification of psychedelics. Actually, any impurities which may be present as a result of synthetic procedures will almost certainly be without any effect on the trip. If there are 200 micrograms of LSD in a tablet, there could only be 200 mics of impurities present even if the LSD was originally only 50% pure (assuming nothing else has been added), and few compounds will produce a significant effect until a hundred to a thousand times this amount has been ingested. Even mescaline, which has a rather specific psychedelic effect, requires about a thousand thimes this amount."

Note that:

   1. on a piece of paper, vs. a tablet, you can't even add significant amounts of adulterants
   2. adulterants would cost, whereas blank paper will rip someone off just as well.

[Jake]

In recent years, law enforcement in the United States and elsewhere has seized several chemicals and combinations of chemicals in blotter paper which were sold as LSD mimics, including DOB, 2C-I, DOC, a mixture of DOC and DOI, and a mixture of DOC and DOB. Street users of LSD are often under the impression that blotter paper which is actively hallucinogenic can only be LSD because that is the only chemical with low enough doses to fit on a small square of blotter paper. While it is true that LSD requires lower doses than most other hallucinogens, blotter paper is capable of absorbing a much larger amount of material. The DEA performed a chromatographic analysis of blotter paper containing 2C-C which showed that the paper contained a much greater concentration of the active chemical than typical LSD doses, although the exact quantity was not determined. Blotter LSD mimics can have relatively small dose squares; a sample of blotter paper containing DOC seized by Concord, California police had dose markings approximately 6 mm apart.

These days a lot f people are substituting 2-ci with acid. Which takes an hour and a half more before the effects are felt.

Things such as mescaline are easy to identify because you need a good 500 mgs, and the powder is usually a yellowish tint.

Another question is what kind of lsd it could be. You're obviously never going to get 25, so the best you can do is a close relative, hopefully not made in some amateur chemist's basement.

Just take mushrooms people!