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C Melody Saxophone Forum / Mouthpieces Reeds and Ligatures / Rock'n'Roll on a C Melody

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Sister Glitz
User ID: 9056633 Jan 28th 11:55 AM
How can I make my 1920's silver Selmer C-melody do a little growling and rumbling instead of only honking? I play in a hobby rock'n'roll band and the C-melody is perfect on Frankie Ford's "Sea Cruise" (sounds just like a fog horn) but sometimes I'd like a little more early 50's growl to it. Is that possible on this instrument?

Captain Muggles
User ID: 3020234 Nov 20th 8:38 AM
Fall....What are you trying to say with all of the addresses and giberish on your post?

Alan (UK)
User ID: 8200143 Nov 20th 11:24 AM
Capn M - Fall is just spamming with links to used cars and hotel discounts.

But this forum doesn't support html, so all the code gets printed..........

WW2
User ID: 0847534 Nov 22nd 10:41 AM
Fall is gone.

Alan (UK)
User ID: 8200143 Nov 22nd 12:50 PM
I know, fall is gone, winter is upon us......

Captain Muggles
User ID: 3020234 Nov 22nd 2:22 PM
To All....What does any of this have to do with Rock'n'Roll on the C melody?

Alan (UK)
User ID: 8200143 Nov 23rd 6:16 AM
Who was it first metioned "Fall" - Capn M ?

By the way (to get back to topic) I did a "blind" test of C-mel vs. Tenor yesterday. Using my trusty '31 Martin C-Mel, and a slightly later Martin stencil tenor - Melody Master - but to the same 'era' design/tooling, opposing bell B/Bb etc. I had, conveniently. two identical vintage Couf Jazz mouthpieces, high baffle, raunchy as h*ll, so I could switch instruments really quickly.

I started honking,rasping and screaming on the tenor, with my adult daughter in an adjoining room, out of sight, but with the door open. After a couple of minutes, quick as a flash, I switched to C-mel and carried on blowing seven bells out of the C-Mel (identical reed/mouthpiece/player combination, only the sling had changed.....).

Conclusions - my daughter said "Did you change key somewhere in there ?" - no flies on her ! Same range of finger patterns on a Bb and C instrument would sound like a key change......

Sound ? "Bloody noisy, great -scared the dogs, but a bit crisper and clearer after you changed key". Her 'blind' tests have never failed to sway me, when I'm dithering on which sax to keep and/or sell. Which did she prefer ? The C-Mel............

The other reason for trying out the older Martin stencil tenor is that I have (sadly, after much soul-searching) decided to let my later The Martin (Committee) got to a home where it will be used - so it's soon to be on ebay. I guess a contest between that tenor and the C-mel may have given the tenor a slight edge - it really is a belter - but then that'd not be 'like for like', an unfair comparison.

So, a Martin or King C-mel (for 99.999% of the listening public) with a belter of a mouthpiece, and an old jazz-rocker playing it, is OK for me......... But it'll always be an issue for some, and from my experiences of the smoother sound from straight-neck Conns - they're not rockers !

bruce bailey
User ID: 8576533 Nov 30th 1:03 AM
Am I missing something? I see that last post on this thread to be Nov. 28 in the previous page but Nov. 23 (Alan) is the last one I see.

Jim B
User ID: 1913054 Nov 30th 6:13 AM
What previous page--- I see on my computer only one page.Just got back from a trip to Turkey where there seems to be no saxophones.

Alan(UK)
User ID: 8200143 Nov 30th 9:05 AM
Bruce - I seem to have missed something as well, a few days back there was a fresh posting on this topic (heading shows as a different colour), but when I checked mine was the last posting.........

Jim, they just have those big straight soprano's (in G ?) in Turkey...

WW2
User ID: 1585334 Nov 30th 1:17 PM
Sorry about the confusion guys. On November 28th a poster named "Fall" posted one of those junk html messages selling something or the other. I deleted the November 28th message from Fall and put the post "Fall is gone" meaning that I had deleted Fall's post.

You are not going crazy, it is just me exercising admin control of the board.

Wade

bruce bailey
User ID: 8576533 Nov 30th 11:58 PM
I C that all is well now.

bruce bailey
User ID: 8576533 Dec 5th 12:19 AM
Uhhhh, problems again?

WW2
User ID: 1585334 Dec 5th 11:40 AM
Yes, had to delete more trash.

Alan (UK)
User ID: 8200143 Dec 6th 3:32 AM
And more junk ! They also seem to be able to 'post' junk into my Guestbook by spamming, no human action involved, so nowhere is safe now.......

Aaaarrrggghhh !

Jim B
User ID: 1913054 Dec 6th 7:29 AM
Does your ISP have any filters you could activate? Any mail with attachments will be junk mail and be filtered out.

Alan (UK)
User ID: 8200143 Dec 7th 6:17 AM
Jim , I wish it was as easy as filters, I'd lose lots of emails from genuine people who send me pictures as attachments.... Most junk mail I get doesn't have attachments, but is just formed in a way to make it difficult to set up a spam "rule" in the email client.

There is a good spam filter I'm considering, which emails back senders, asking them to "enter the numbers you see on the screen", like the system ebay now uses.

Once they reply (and this cuts out all the automated spammers) then their adress is added to an "OK" list, to which, of course, manual additions can be made to allow (e.g.) stuff like ebay correspondance thro...

But of course even that doesn't stop spammers getting into forums and guestbooks, that's a whole different issue. That's down to 'spot it and delete it", unless the forum has a logon procedure to defeat it/them - which this forum (nor my guestbook) doesn't....

Here endeth the first anti-spamming lesson !

ukebert
User ID: 9112483 Dec 7th 11:57 AM
cingular-wireless:

You must be either the lowest form of filth, or have no other choice in order to do that sort of thing. Do you really think that you are going to get customers? You sad, sad imbeceile. Crawl back into the hole from which you came, and never return, or we will hunt you down. Remember, we have operatives all over the world.

WW2
User ID: 1585334 Dec 7th 7:29 PM
cingular-wireless post deleted.

ukebert
User ID: 9112483 Dec 9th 10:55 AM
Petr, see my post above, replace name.

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Sister Glitz User ID: 9056633	Jan 28th 11:55 AM How can I make my 1920's silver Selmer C-melody do a little growling and rumbling instead of only honking? I play in a hobby rock'n'roll band and the C-melody is perfect on Frankie Ford's "Sea Cruise" (sounds just like a fog horn) but sometimes I'd like a little more early 50's growl to it. Is that possible on this instrument?
Captain Muggles User ID: 3020234	Nov 20th 8:38 AM Fall....What are you trying to say with all of the addresses and giberish on your post?
Alan (UK) User ID: 8200143	Nov 20th 11:24 AM Capn M - Fall is just spamming with links to used cars and hotel discounts. But this forum doesn't support html, so all the code gets printed..........
WW2 User ID: 0847534	Nov 22nd 10:41 AM Fall is gone.
Alan (UK) User ID: 8200143	Nov 22nd 12:50 PM I know, fall is gone, winter is upon us......
Captain Muggles User ID: 3020234	Nov 22nd 2:22 PM To All....What does any of this have to do with Rock'n'Roll on the C melody?
Alan (UK) User ID: 8200143	Nov 23rd 6:16 AM Who was it first metioned "Fall" - Capn M ? By the way (to get back to topic) I did a "blind" test of C-mel vs. Tenor yesterday. Using my trusty '31 Martin C-Mel, and a slightly later Martin stencil tenor - Melody Master - but to the same 'era' design/tooling, opposing bell B/Bb etc. I had, conveniently. two identical vintage Couf Jazz mouthpieces, high baffle, raunchy as h*ll, so I could switch instruments really quickly. I started honking,rasping and screaming on the tenor, with my adult daughter in an adjoining room, out of sight, but with the door open. After a couple of minutes, quick as a flash, I switched to C-mel and carried on blowing seven bells out of the C-Mel (identical reed/mouthpiece/player combination, only the sling had changed.....). Conclusions - my daughter said "Did you change key somewhere in there ?" - no flies on her ! Same range of finger patterns on a Bb and C instrument would sound like a key change...... Sound ? "Bloody noisy, great -scared the dogs, but a bit crisper and clearer after you changed key". Her 'blind' tests have never failed to sway me, when I'm dithering on which sax to keep and/or sell. Which did she prefer ? The C-Mel............ The other reason for trying out the older Martin stencil tenor is that I have (sadly, after much soul-searching) decided to let my later The Martin (Committee) got to a home where it will be used - so it's soon to be on ebay. I guess a contest between that tenor and the C-mel may have given the tenor a slight edge - it really is a belter - but then that'd not be 'like for like', an unfair comparison. So, a Martin or King C-mel (for 99.999% of the listening public) with a belter of a mouthpiece, and an old jazz-rocker playing it, is OK for me......... But it'll always be an issue for some, and from my experiences of the smoother sound from straight-neck Conns - they're not rockers !
bruce bailey User ID: 8576533	Nov 30th 1:03 AM Am I missing something? I see that last post on this thread to be Nov. 28 in the previous page but Nov. 23 (Alan) is the last one I see.
Jim B User ID: 1913054	Nov 30th 6:13 AM What previous page--- I see on my computer only one page.Just got back from a trip to Turkey where there seems to be no saxophones.
Alan(UK) User ID: 8200143	Nov 30th 9:05 AM Bruce - I seem to have missed something as well, a few days back there was a fresh posting on this topic (heading shows as a different colour), but when I checked mine was the last posting......... Jim, they just have those big straight soprano's (in G ?) in Turkey...
WW2 User ID: 1585334	Nov 30th 1:17 PM Sorry about the confusion guys. On November 28th a poster named "Fall" posted one of those junk html messages selling something or the other. I deleted the November 28th message from Fall and put the post "Fall is gone" meaning that I had deleted Fall's post. You are not going crazy, it is just me exercising admin control of the board. Wade
bruce bailey User ID: 8576533	Nov 30th 11:58 PM I C that all is well now.
bruce bailey User ID: 8576533	Dec 5th 12:19 AM Uhhhh, problems again?
WW2 User ID: 1585334	Dec 5th 11:40 AM Yes, had to delete more trash.
Alan (UK) User ID: 8200143	Dec 6th 3:32 AM And more junk ! They also seem to be able to 'post' junk into my Guestbook by spamming, no human action involved, so nowhere is safe now....... Aaaarrrggghhh !
Jim B User ID: 1913054	Dec 6th 7:29 AM Does your ISP have any filters you could activate? Any mail with attachments will be junk mail and be filtered out.
Alan (UK) User ID: 8200143	Dec 7th 6:17 AM Jim , I wish it was as easy as filters, I'd lose lots of emails from genuine people who send me pictures as attachments.... Most junk mail I get doesn't have attachments, but is just formed in a way to make it difficult to set up a spam "rule" in the email client. There is a good spam filter I'm considering, which emails back senders, asking them to "enter the numbers you see on the screen", like the system ebay now uses. Once they reply (and this cuts out all the automated spammers) then their adress is added to an "OK" list, to which, of course, manual additions can be made to allow (e.g.) stuff like ebay correspondance thro... But of course even that doesn't stop spammers getting into forums and guestbooks, that's a whole different issue. That's down to 'spot it and delete it", unless the forum has a logon procedure to defeat it/them - which this forum (nor my guestbook) doesn't.... Here endeth the first anti-spamming lesson !
ukebert User ID: 9112483	Dec 7th 11:57 AM cingular-wireless: You must be either the lowest form of filth, or have no other choice in order to do that sort of thing. Do you really think that you are going to get customers? You sad, sad imbeceile. Crawl back into the hole from which you came, and never return, or we will hunt you down. Remember, we have operatives all over the world.
WW2 User ID: 1585334	Dec 7th 7:29 PM cingular-wireless post deleted.
ukebert User ID: 9112483	Dec 9th 10:55 AM Petr, see my post above, replace name.