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C Melody Saxophone Forum / Mouthpieces Reeds and Ligatures / Sinclair mouthpiece

Jazzbug1
User ID: 0735934 Aug 30th 6:47 AM
I just won on Ebay an unusual metal C melody mouthpiece. It is a Sinclair, dating from the 1920s. It has an adjustable shank, to allow for tuning, like the Conn adjustable mouthpiece. I have a Sinclair soprano, which plays very well, so I am looking forward to receiving it. I currently use a Goldbeck for Jazz and a Holton for a more classical sound. I'll see how this compares. Anyone with experience on these unusual mouthpieces?

alan (uk)
User ID: 0651814 Aug 30th 7:07 AM
Ah - so that's you, jb1 - appropriate name. Can I assume you sell on ebay under another name ?

I thought of you a while back when I saw a Conn C-Mel project, with an Aquilasax neck - for sale on ebay.

You can always contact me thro' the website, if you don't want to commit here...

Rails look a bit chunky, I wouldn't be surprised if it was more of a 'gimmicky' thing than a different sound. Imagine this on a Conn, two microtuners to play with - maybe it was aimed at the C-mels without a microtuner neck, to me, sliding surfaces present potential leaks !

Let us know.

Jazzbug1
User ID: 0735934 Aug 30th 8:22 AM
Yes, I sell under my wife's name, "Glittercatz".
You can always tell my listing by the description: it sounds like someone who pretends to know about C melodys. I currently have a Selmer American listed. Sorry, I can't argue my wife out of overseas sales, as someone tried to break into our account and another buyer cancelled a Paypal payment soon after he paid it, thinking we had shipped it. As for now, we'll stick with domestic crooks.

alan (uk)
User ID: 0651814 Aug 30th 2:52 PM
jb1 - yes, pity some buyers spoil it for others. I can understand your wife's reluctance - a good 'middle road' that some US sellers use is to have overseas buyers contact them first, before accepting bids. Then they can check out (e.g.) ebay and Paypal history before saying OK.

It's always the low/bad feedback merchants that pull strokes - and usually from 'dodgy' countries, not UK, Canada, Germany, Holland etc. Steve (Aquilasax) didn't refuse to sell to you because you're not in NZ, did he ? Oh well.

Mind you, a Martin (stencil) C-Sop that I bought from a US seller had the serial number filed off....... And one redneck still owes me a C-mel, not worth chasing, he still insists it's "lost in the post by USPS, it left me..." - oh yeah ?

jazzbug1
User ID: 0735934 Sep 6th 7:08 AM
I had a red neck one summer from spending too much time at the drive-in movie.

alan (uk)
User ID: 0651814 Sep 6th 7:42 AM
jb1 - shouldn't you be posting jokes in YOUR thread - you know, the one you were condescending enough to allow us to post in, when you'd dried up ( just type in a few random 'Dubya' comments, he's funnier than Jack Benny, and drier than George Burns )

Just out of interest, I've started listing all my C-Mels online, as some really have to go - up to ten so far, easily double that by the time I'm finished !

Have a look - http://tinyurl.com/3awgju

(I've used 'tinyurl' to save a very long url...)

WW2
User ID: 8973393 Sep 6th 10:10 AM
Only 16 joking months left for Dubya, then he's outta there!

Wish I had the money to "refresh" my stable. Need lots of work on the C-Mels, Altos, Bari, and I need to add a C-Sop, a Bb-Tenor and a Bass. Oh well, gives me something to save my money towards.

alan (uk)
User ID: 0651814 Sep 6th 11:04 AM
Sorry - did I say "up to ten so far" ? - now 13 C-Mels listed, and I still can't see the bottom of the pile (figuratively speaking...)!

Wade- you've just sold a C-Sop and a Bass ! Missing them already ?

Eagerly awaiting my "Aquilasax C", hopefully be here soon - interesting times ahead...

Captain Beeflat
User ID: 1738604 Sep 6th 1:46 PM
Wade...The saving will at least keep you out of bars and off street corners. :-)

alan (uk)
User ID: 0651814 Sep 7th 4:02 AM
Hey Wade, I hear Gandalfe maybe has a Bass Sax for sale... Why not make him an offer he can't refuse ?

Captain Beeflat
User ID: 1738604 Sep 7th 4:28 AM
Speaking as one who transported a bass sax belonging to my brother, on the London Underground, for him to dep for The Temperance Seven at a pub in High Holborn; I would advise against a bass. An instrument of large proportions impinges on one's social life...a friend, who is a keen motorcyclist, is forced to limp about in a Volvo Estate in order to transport his double bass. He growls at me when I point out the portable qualities of harmonicas.

Jim B
User ID: 9440113 Sep 7th 7:48 AM
A bass sax player was broke and wishing for a cheap vacation when he saw a startling advertisement in the Sunday travel section of
the New York Times:
Mississippi Riverboat Cruises! Four days, three nights on the Big Muddy. Bass Sax players special fare: Twenty-five cents. Bring your bass sax to claim the reduced rate. Number of discount fares limited. Other restrictions may apply.

Feeling both a little incredulous and excited, he bundled up his dog house and headed down to the docks. Locating the ticket window, he approached it a little shyly, set down his bass sax and asked,
"I'm here to inquire about the twenty-five cent cruise for bass Sax players."

"Do you have your bass sax with you, sir?"

"You bet I do. It's right here."

"Well, then there'll be no problem arranging your cruise. Where's that quarter?"
And as he was digging into his front pants pocket he was hit
on the back of the head with a blunt object and fell to the ground.
Waking some hours later, he found himself tied to his bass sax, floating down the Mississippi, his head aching. Unable to free himself, he floated for some time and after a while, began to see
real beauty in the passing riverscape, the trees, herons startling out of the shallows, catfish surfacing.
He fell off to sleep for a little while. When he awoke, he became aware of another man, tied to a bass sax, floating near him. And realizing that he was famished and thirsty, he called over to the other musician, "Hey, man. Do they serve any food or drinks on this cruise?"
And the man replied, "They didn't last year."

Captain Beeflat
User ID: 1738604 Sep 7th 8:11 AM
:-))

WW2
User ID: 8973393 Sep 7th 1:57 PM
If I am not mistaken, the Buescher he is selling is the one I recently sold him! But he cut about 1.5cm (1/2 inch) off the neck so it would play in tune. Yet, I could play it in tune like it was. It is now damaged property in my mind, but I still don't have the money (why I sold it in the first place!)

Captain Beeflat
User ID: 1738604 Sep 8th 8:02 AM
Wade...As you well know, poseur lead guitarists tune slightly sharp to cut through the other instruments. Possibly Gandalfe has shortened, and sharpened, the bass to play it as a lead instrument. :-)

jazzbug1
User ID: 0735934 Sep 12th 7:51 AM
Wow! This thread was about a Sinclair mouthpiece.
I received it, tried it on my Rudy model C melody, and found it to be similar to my Goldbeck, but with less volume. I'll wait until the prices reach Winter fanaticism and list it on Ebay. That adjustable tuner shaft is a very prcision fit. One drop on the floor and it could be permanently set. Nice machining and finishing work. They sure took pride when they produced this mouthpiece.

Jazzbug1 User ID: 0735934	Aug 30th 6:47 AM I just won on Ebay an unusual metal C melody mouthpiece. It is a Sinclair, dating from the 1920s. It has an adjustable shank, to allow for tuning, like the Conn adjustable mouthpiece. I have a Sinclair soprano, which plays very well, so I am looking forward to receiving it. I currently use a Goldbeck for Jazz and a Holton for a more classical sound. I'll see how this compares. Anyone with experience on these unusual mouthpieces?
alan (uk) User ID: 0651814	Aug 30th 7:07 AM Ah - so that's you, jb1 - appropriate name. Can I assume you sell on ebay under another name ? I thought of you a while back when I saw a Conn C-Mel project, with an Aquilasax neck - for sale on ebay. You can always contact me thro' the website, if you don't want to commit here... Rails look a bit chunky, I wouldn't be surprised if it was more of a 'gimmicky' thing than a different sound. Imagine this on a Conn, two microtuners to play with - maybe it was aimed at the C-mels without a microtuner neck, to me, sliding surfaces present potential leaks ! Let us know.
Jazzbug1 User ID: 0735934	Aug 30th 8:22 AM Yes, I sell under my wife's name, "Glittercatz". You can always tell my listing by the description: it sounds like someone who pretends to know about C melodys. I currently have a Selmer American listed. Sorry, I can't argue my wife out of overseas sales, as someone tried to break into our account and another buyer cancelled a Paypal payment soon after he paid it, thinking we had shipped it. As for now, we'll stick with domestic crooks.
alan (uk) User ID: 0651814	Aug 30th 2:52 PM jb1 - yes, pity some buyers spoil it for others. I can understand your wife's reluctance - a good 'middle road' that some US sellers use is to have overseas buyers contact them first, before accepting bids. Then they can check out (e.g.) ebay and Paypal history before saying OK. It's always the low/bad feedback merchants that pull strokes - and usually from 'dodgy' countries, not UK, Canada, Germany, Holland etc. Steve (Aquilasax) didn't refuse to sell to you because you're not in NZ, did he ? Oh well. Mind you, a Martin (stencil) C-Sop that I bought from a US seller had the serial number filed off....... And one redneck still owes me a C-mel, not worth chasing, he still insists it's "lost in the post by USPS, it left me..." - oh yeah ?
jazzbug1 User ID: 0735934	Sep 6th 7:08 AM I had a red neck one summer from spending too much time at the drive-in movie.
alan (uk) User ID: 0651814	Sep 6th 7:42 AM jb1 - shouldn't you be posting jokes in YOUR thread - you know, the one you were condescending enough to allow us to post in, when you'd dried up ( just type in a few random 'Dubya' comments, he's funnier than Jack Benny, and drier than George Burns ) Just out of interest, I've started listing all my C-Mels online, as some really have to go - up to ten so far, easily double that by the time I'm finished ! Have a look - http://tinyurl.com/3awgju (I've used 'tinyurl' to save a very long url...)
WW2 User ID: 8973393	Sep 6th 10:10 AM Only 16 joking months left for Dubya, then he's outta there! Wish I had the money to "refresh" my stable. Need lots of work on the C-Mels, Altos, Bari, and I need to add a C-Sop, a Bb-Tenor and a Bass. Oh well, gives me something to save my money towards.
alan (uk) User ID: 0651814	Sep 6th 11:04 AM Sorry - did I say "up to ten so far" ? - now 13 C-Mels listed, and I still can't see the bottom of the pile (figuratively speaking...)! Wade- you've just sold a C-Sop and a Bass ! Missing them already ? Eagerly awaiting my "Aquilasax C", hopefully be here soon - interesting times ahead...
Captain Beeflat User ID: 1738604	Sep 6th 1:46 PM Wade...The saving will at least keep you out of bars and off street corners. :-)
alan (uk) User ID: 0651814	Sep 7th 4:02 AM Hey Wade, I hear Gandalfe maybe has a Bass Sax for sale... Why not make him an offer he can't refuse ?
Captain Beeflat User ID: 1738604	Sep 7th 4:28 AM Speaking as one who transported a bass sax belonging to my brother, on the London Underground, for him to dep for The Temperance Seven at a pub in High Holborn; I would advise against a bass. An instrument of large proportions impinges on one's social life...a friend, who is a keen motorcyclist, is forced to limp about in a Volvo Estate in order to transport his double bass. He growls at me when I point out the portable qualities of harmonicas.
Jim B User ID: 9440113	Sep 7th 7:48 AM A bass sax player was broke and wishing for a cheap vacation when he saw a startling advertisement in the Sunday travel section of the New York Times: Mississippi Riverboat Cruises! Four days, three nights on the Big Muddy. Bass Sax players special fare: Twenty-five cents. Bring your bass sax to claim the reduced rate. Number of discount fares limited. Other restrictions may apply. Feeling both a little incredulous and excited, he bundled up his dog house and headed down to the docks. Locating the ticket window, he approached it a little shyly, set down his bass sax and asked, "I'm here to inquire about the twenty-five cent cruise for bass Sax players." "Do you have your bass sax with you, sir?" "You bet I do. It's right here." "Well, then there'll be no problem arranging your cruise. Where's that quarter?" And as he was digging into his front pants pocket he was hit on the back of the head with a blunt object and fell to the ground. Waking some hours later, he found himself tied to his bass sax, floating down the Mississippi, his head aching. Unable to free himself, he floated for some time and after a while, began to see real beauty in the passing riverscape, the trees, herons startling out of the shallows, catfish surfacing. He fell off to sleep for a little while. When he awoke, he became aware of another man, tied to a bass sax, floating near him. And realizing that he was famished and thirsty, he called over to the other musician, "Hey, man. Do they serve any food or drinks on this cruise?" And the man replied, "They didn't last year."
Captain Beeflat User ID: 1738604	Sep 7th 8:11 AM :-))
WW2 User ID: 8973393	Sep 7th 1:57 PM If I am not mistaken, the Buescher he is selling is the one I recently sold him! But he cut about 1.5cm (1/2 inch) off the neck so it would play in tune. Yet, I could play it in tune like it was. It is now damaged property in my mind, but I still don't have the money (why I sold it in the first place!)
Captain Beeflat User ID: 1738604	Sep 8th 8:02 AM Wade...As you well know, poseur lead guitarists tune slightly sharp to cut through the other instruments. Possibly Gandalfe has shortened, and sharpened, the bass to play it as a lead instrument. :-)
jazzbug1 User ID: 0735934	Sep 12th 7:51 AM Wow! This thread was about a Sinclair mouthpiece. I received it, tried it on my Rudy model C melody, and found it to be similar to my Goldbeck, but with less volume. I'll wait until the prices reach Winter fanaticism and list it on Ebay. That adjustable tuner shaft is a very prcision fit. One drop on the floor and it could be permanently set. Nice machining and finishing work. They sure took pride when they produced this mouthpiece.