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C Melody Saxophone Forum / C-Tenor (C-Melody) Saxophones / J.W. York & Sons C Melody

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daPuffin
User ID: 8284183 Jun 4th 1:39 PM
A few years ago I purchased at auction a J.W. York & Sons C Melody Sax. Notations under the thumbhook are: "60881, Low Pitch, Licence Pat. Dec. 8, 1914." On the bell, surrounded by a floral bouquet, it says "J.W. York & Sons. Grand Rapids, MI.

My husband plays tenor, but I bought this one for me. I am not a sax player (former flute player), but a wannabe. <g> What would be a good type of mouthpiece to use on this C Melody, and what would be a good reed for a beginner? The current mouthpiece has no markings, but the mouthpiece cover says "Humes" and on the ligature is the letter "C"

Thanks in advance for any advice!

daPuffin
in Seattle, WA

Sam ie
User ID: 0331974 Jun 6th 1:31 PM
I just got it a few seconds ago, I didn't read your post though

Castaway
User ID: 9182423 Jun 6th 5:38 PM
Fellows: Let's all be friends. No more underhanded actions or reactions. Play by the rules and don't make up or circumvent them. A person that deletes posts is abusing his priveleges. You can use your intellect to react to a post that you don't agree with. Erasing it is the sneaky, underhanded way to do it. It shows lack of character. I like this forum. Sometimes I don't agree with everything posted. But I would rather rebutt or ignore a controversial post rather than see it erased. Only a person with an imagined sense of superiority would do that. Who are you or I to judge what is posted here as long as it isn't totally outrageous. And if it is, let it stand for everyone to see. We can just ignore it. Well that's how I feel about it anyway.

JJ !@#$%^*( )_+
User ID: 8332933 Jun 6th 6:06 PM
Castaway - Wow! How eloquently put. What you posted was all true. I can't add anything to your post. I agree 100%.

daPuffin
User ID: 2365684 Jun 6th 7:47 PM
Did some net research on some of the cheapie brands on eBay and they prolly aren't worth my time and money.

Good idea on the calipers for repairs. We have good ones here because husband I do jewelry work. Electronic ones are actually on our list for that reason, but we have some manual ones with pretty tight tolerances for now.

Speaking of tolerances, I guess I'm not surprised to see some uh... stuph... on this board between some folks. I'm a moderator on some art/jewelry related forums in other places, and this kind of thing seems to crop up everywhere. I didn't notice any posts here that were offensive, and don't notice any that are gone. Too bad though. I'd rather play an instrument or create something of beauty or craftsmanship than have to read past people sniping at one another. Seems to happen everywhere, tho. >sigh<

Hope everybody's having a great day. Me, I'm getting ready to toss something good on the grill shortly, so life isn't too bad a-tall. A friend is coming over to join us for dinner and is bringing an Alto sax (I think it's a Selmer) for my husband to look over, so maybe I can fool a little with that, too.) Husband is amused as heck re my sudden interest in saxes. He's been playing for many years, and even though I bought the C-Mel a few years ago, up to now, I pretty much didn't

Cheers!

daPuffin

Saxismyaxe.
User ID: 9495963 Jun 11th 1:56 AM
This is such a late posting, it is probably moot at this point, but two corrections with the first couple of posts:

1. The 16M Director or "Shooting Stars" model tenor was among Conn's student to intermediate line of horns, and replaced the Pan American models. The Director model first hit the market in 1955, and thus is not a 1940's horn as suggested.

2. The 1914 patent date is for the William Haynes drawn tone hole process, and is not for the the C-Melody exclusively as suggested.

I'm mentioning this for those who might be reading through this, as it wasn't touched upon or corrected in the original thread conversations.

Cheers.

alan (uk)
User ID: 1341734 Jun 11th 9:52 AM
saxismyaxe - thanks, but I think you may also be in the wrong thread/topic....

But I never knew the 'Shooting Stars' took over from the PanAm. However, if you were to ask me a 'Martin ' question...... ?

Saxismyaxe
User ID: 9495963 Jun 11th 9:34 PM
"Saxismyaxe-I think you may also be in the wrong thread/topic"

Hi Alan,

Nope, I'm refering to the first couple of posts in this thread:

"daPuffin
User ID: 8284183 Jun 4th 1:39 PM
A few years ago I purchased at auction a J.W. York & Sons C Melody Sax. Notations under the thumbhook are: "60881, Low Pitch, Licence Pat. Dec. 8, 1914." On the bell, surrounded by a floral bouquet, it says "J.W. York & Sons. Grand Rapids, MI.
Husband's tenor is an old (1940s?) Conn 16M in excellent condition and it sounds amazing. He's had it for 35 years.

Thanks in advance for any advice!

daPuffin
in Seattle, WA
daPuffin
User ID: 8284183 Jun 4th 1:40 PM
Oops. Been doing a lot of correspondence to Canada lately. The text under the thumbhook says "License" not "Licence"

daPuffin
Captain Muggles
User ID: 8945823 Jun 4th 9:48 PM
daPuffin...Most all C melody's have that date on them. It is the date for the general patent for a C melody sax of any make.

daPuffin
User ID: 0944964 Jun 11th 11:24 PM
I wasn't sure of the date. Ok, it's 1950s, not 1940s. Thanks for the clarification. Lots of good things came from the 1950s, including me. =)

daPuffin

bruce bailey
User ID: 9670323 Jun 12th 12:37 AM
Better things came from the 40s like me!

alan (uk)
User ID: 1341734 Jun 12th 6:57 AM
And me, '47 was a very good year..... (that last bit'd make a great song !)

bruce bailey
User ID: 9670323 Jun 13th 12:21 AM
May 26,1947, just made it to 60!

alan (uk)
User ID: 0415304 Jun 13th 3:48 AM
June 4, '47, very close...... Dad came back from the extended WWII (Burma..) in '46.

Now the world is full of post-war "Baby Boomers".

Captain Muggles
User ID: 8945823 Jun 13th 5:01 AM
saxismyaxe...I was mistaken. So were a lot of other people. Sue us!

jazzbug1
User ID: 1836024 Jun 13th 7:13 AM
I was born in 1947. My wife says if I were an automobile, I'd be worth $$$.

ukebert
User ID: 1035294 Jun 13th 7:24 AM
What is it about 1947?

ukebert
User ID: 1035294 Jun 13th 7:24 AM
I hasten to add that I was born a good deal after...

Sam ie
User ID: 0331974 Jun 13th 7:37 AM
Me too...

Captain Beeflat
User ID: 1738604 Jun 13th 8:09 AM
Jazzbug.
Age does not necessarily enhance value. Tell your wife that if you were a type 57 SC Bugatti with bodywork by Figgiano et Falashi, she would be right. If however, you were a nondescript Ford of that vintage, then, by now, you would have returned to the arms of Mother Earth. :-)

jazzbug1
User ID: 1836024 Jun 13th 10:57 AM
I would prefer to be a premature Tucker.

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daPuffin User ID: 8284183	Jun 4th 1:39 PM A few years ago I purchased at auction a J.W. York & Sons C Melody Sax. Notations under the thumbhook are: "60881, Low Pitch, Licence Pat. Dec. 8, 1914." On the bell, surrounded by a floral bouquet, it says "J.W. York & Sons. Grand Rapids, MI. My husband plays tenor, but I bought this one for me. I am not a sax player (former flute player), but a wannabe. <g> What would be a good type of mouthpiece to use on this C Melody, and what would be a good reed for a beginner? The current mouthpiece has no markings, but the mouthpiece cover says "Humes" and on the ligature is the letter "C" Thanks in advance for any advice! daPuffin in Seattle, WA
Sam ie User ID: 0331974	Jun 6th 1:31 PM I just got it a few seconds ago, I didn't read your post though
Castaway User ID: 9182423	Jun 6th 5:38 PM Fellows: Let's all be friends. No more underhanded actions or reactions. Play by the rules and don't make up or circumvent them. A person that deletes posts is abusing his priveleges. You can use your intellect to react to a post that you don't agree with. Erasing it is the sneaky, underhanded way to do it. It shows lack of character. I like this forum. Sometimes I don't agree with everything posted. But I would rather rebutt or ignore a controversial post rather than see it erased. Only a person with an imagined sense of superiority would do that. Who are you or I to judge what is posted here as long as it isn't totally outrageous. And if it is, let it stand for everyone to see. We can just ignore it. Well that's how I feel about it anyway.
JJ !@#$%^( )_+ User ID: 8332933*	Jun 6th 6:06 PM Castaway - Wow! How eloquently put. What you posted was all true. I can't add anything to your post. I agree 100%.
daPuffin User ID: 2365684	Jun 6th 7:47 PM Did some net research on some of the cheapie brands on eBay and they prolly aren't worth my time and money. Good idea on the calipers for repairs. We have good ones here because husband I do jewelry work. Electronic ones are actually on our list for that reason, but we have some manual ones with pretty tight tolerances for now. Speaking of tolerances, I guess I'm not surprised to see some uh... stuph... on this board between some folks. I'm a moderator on some art/jewelry related forums in other places, and this kind of thing seems to crop up everywhere. I didn't notice any posts here that were offensive, and don't notice any that are gone. Too bad though. I'd rather play an instrument or create something of beauty or craftsmanship than have to read past people sniping at one another. Seems to happen everywhere, tho. >sigh< Hope everybody's having a great day. Me, I'm getting ready to toss something good on the grill shortly, so life isn't too bad a-tall. A friend is coming over to join us for dinner and is bringing an Alto sax (I think it's a Selmer) for my husband to look over, so maybe I can fool a little with that, too.) Husband is amused as heck re my sudden interest in saxes. He's been playing for many years, and even though I bought the C-Mel a few years ago, up to now, I pretty much didn't Cheers! daPuffin
Saxismyaxe. User ID: 9495963	Jun 11th 1:56 AM This is such a late posting, it is probably moot at this point, but two corrections with the first couple of posts: 1. The 16M Director or "Shooting Stars" model tenor was among Conn's student to intermediate line of horns, and replaced the Pan American models. The Director model first hit the market in 1955, and thus is not a 1940's horn as suggested. 2. The 1914 patent date is for the William Haynes drawn tone hole process, and is not for the the C-Melody exclusively as suggested. I'm mentioning this for those who might be reading through this, as it wasn't touched upon or corrected in the original thread conversations. Cheers.
alan (uk) User ID: 1341734	Jun 11th 9:52 AM saxismyaxe - thanks, but I think you may also be in the wrong thread/topic.... But I never knew the 'Shooting Stars' took over from the PanAm. However, if you were to ask me a 'Martin ' question...... ?
Saxismyaxe User ID: 9495963	Jun 11th 9:34 PM "Saxismyaxe-I think you may also be in the wrong thread/topic" Hi Alan, Nope, I'm refering to the first couple of posts in this thread: "daPuffin User ID: 8284183 Jun 4th 1:39 PM A few years ago I purchased at auction a J.W. York & Sons C Melody Sax. Notations under the thumbhook are: "60881, Low Pitch, Licence Pat. Dec. 8, 1914." On the bell, surrounded by a floral bouquet, it says "J.W. York & Sons. Grand Rapids, MI. Husband's tenor is an old (1940s?) Conn 16M in excellent condition and it sounds amazing. He's had it for 35 years. Thanks in advance for any advice! daPuffin in Seattle, WA daPuffin User ID: 8284183 Jun 4th 1:40 PM Oops. Been doing a lot of correspondence to Canada lately. The text under the thumbhook says "License" not "Licence" daPuffin Captain Muggles User ID: 8945823 Jun 4th 9:48 PM daPuffin...Most all C melody's have that date on them. It is the date for the general patent for a C melody sax of any make.
daPuffin User ID: 0944964	Jun 11th 11:24 PM I wasn't sure of the date. Ok, it's 1950s, not 1940s. Thanks for the clarification. Lots of good things came from the 1950s, including me. =) daPuffin
bruce bailey User ID: 9670323	Jun 12th 12:37 AM Better things came from the 40s like me!
alan (uk) User ID: 1341734	Jun 12th 6:57 AM And me, '47 was a very good year..... (that last bit'd make a great song !)
bruce bailey User ID: 9670323	Jun 13th 12:21 AM May 26,1947, just made it to 60!
alan (uk) User ID: 0415304	Jun 13th 3:48 AM June 4, '47, very close...... Dad came back from the extended WWII (Burma..) in '46. Now the world is full of post-war "Baby Boomers".
Captain Muggles User ID: 8945823	Jun 13th 5:01 AM saxismyaxe...I was mistaken. So were a lot of other people. Sue us!
jazzbug1 User ID: 1836024	Jun 13th 7:13 AM I was born in 1947. My wife says if I were an automobile, I'd be worth $$$.
ukebert User ID: 1035294	Jun 13th 7:24 AM What is it about 1947?
ukebert User ID: 1035294	Jun 13th 7:24 AM I hasten to add that I was born a good deal after...
Sam ie User ID: 0331974	Jun 13th 7:37 AM Me too...
Captain Beeflat User ID: 1738604	Jun 13th 8:09 AM Jazzbug. Age does not necessarily enhance value. Tell your wife that if you were a type 57 SC Bugatti with bodywork by Figgiano et Falashi, she would be right. If however, you were a nondescript Ford of that vintage, then, by now, you would have returned to the arms of Mother Earth. :-)
jazzbug1 User ID: 1836024	Jun 13th 10:57 AM I would prefer to be a premature Tucker.