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Angela Louison
User ID: 0464054 Apr 10th 1:20 PM
Sorry to be bothersome...this is sort of a follow-up to my last post. I've been doing some research, found loads of information almost all of which was really confusing, and then went to E-bay (I know, buyer beware).
Anyone have anything to say about these auctions? All clinkers, what I should be willing to pay, ANYTHING. The last in particular is the one I'm most interested.
Thanks in advance for any advice...it's so appreciated.

auctions #250101339009, #330106643781, #230114252997 and #140106172866.

alan (uk)
User ID: 8200143 Apr 17th 5:17 PM
Yes, lets get back to music please, but Wade - would you please stop alluding to "non-believers" ? Sort of implies that your faith is the only true belief - that's all I have to say. We're all believers, just in different things.

That expression does wind me up, the local churches here use it "to death" as well - then they wonder why we think of them as smug and elitist

'Nuff said. I really prefer discussing saxophones.............

Castaway
User ID: 9182423 Apr 17th 6:09 PM
Sometimes you guys scare me. This stuff is much too deep. But then again, this thread is titled Opinions. So I guess it's alright. Although things do get a bit testy and doenright hostile at times.

WW2
User ID: 8973393 Apr 17th 6:18 PM
Alan (uk), I will try to use non-christian if that is acceptable.

Back to saxophones, I took my Buescher out of the case and started playing it again after spending most of my time the last few months with my Conn C-Mel.

I was immediately greated with a feeling like slipping into an old, comfortable set of clothes. The Buescher fell under my fingers in the accustomed places and the notes fell from the sax with ease. I didn't realize how hard I had been working on the Conn.

Don't get me wrong, this is not a negative comment against the Conn, for I believe that the work I am doing with the Conn just indicates that it needs regulation. Afterall, it is the Conn that I got from Roger after he had extensive work done to the saxophone. I used the same Morgan mouthpiece that Roger supplied with the Conn, so the difference was not in the mouthpieces.

Mostly the difference was in the sound. The Buescher was sweet, melodic and polite. The Conn was more brash, in your face, with a bit more edge. So I really have two different axes to use in different venues. Guess which one is headed for the streets in the annual Temecula Star-Spangled Fourth parade in July!

alan (uk)
User ID: 8200143 Apr 17th 8:05 PM
Yes, Roger did struggle with that Conn. I don't know that the old (W1) curved neck Conns are that amazing. Stacey always had problems with his, whereas Steve is happy (until the new one..). I find the newer (W2) Conns - like Mugsy's and JJ's better to play - albeit (for me) with a replacement curved neck.

Buescher has a very different feel and sound from from Conn, chalk and cheese. You should also try a well set up Martin and/or King if you have the chance, they both feel and play differently again - each with characters of their own. Horses for courses..... And why not ?

Captain Beeflat
User ID: 1738604 Apr 18th 4:06 AM
Simpy a swansong for those who cannot understand.
Captain Beeflat is a twist on the Name Captain Beefhart...obvious to most.
"Doc" however is a conceited self gratifying title worthy of a mountibank. No PhD was ever granted for spanner wielding...perhaps it is different in the swamplands. He claims it to be a nickname (which speaks volumes about his peers)..would he have hung onto Stinker or Ginger?
J.J Your unqualified tirade clearly shews that you need treatment urgently...and you accuse ME of being vitriolic!
Various god botherers...there is no proof of your claims. We pragmatists and realists therefore are not "non- believers" as you smugly put it; you are "the gullible".
To my old friends on this site, bye bye. I shall stick to my Bb tenor...

Castaway
User ID: 9725373 Apr 18th 7:12 AM
Captain Beefhart and Your Magic Band: Your last post shows your unhealthy obsession with disdain for Doc Frazier. As a fairly new poster on this forum, dare I say: "Good Riddance to Bad Rubbish". Maybe guys like me can now come to this forum and get some useful information on saxophones, instead of the ravings of a Hate Monger.

alan (uk)
User ID: 8200143 Apr 18th 8:56 AM
Castaway - go to websites like mine (cmelodysax.co.uk) for info, forums are mostly 'soapbox alley' - especially where there is no registration and posters use pseudonyms..... Although I must admit that this one can get a bit 'over the top' at times, makes saxontheweb look positively civilised..

I, for one, will in future only contribute occasional relevant 'musical' dialogue to this forum, because I do believe that it's a "C Melody Saxophone forum" ? I'll drink to that.

Jungle Jim
User ID: 8332933 Apr 18th 9:16 AM
Captain Be Fart - Ahh, smell the fresh air. Like they say in the U. S. Marine Corps, when something good happens: "Oooorah". Don't let the proverbial door hit you in the arse on the way out.

alan (uk)
User ID: 8200143 Apr 18th 10:06 AM
I can feel the standards dropping again.....

Jungle Jim
User ID: 8332933 Apr 18th 10:44 AM
Alan (uk) - I know a lot of us, and that definitely includes me, tend to get weird at times. But Bb has a very mean nasty way about him. He brings out the worst in me. I'm sorry if I offend you by mocking him. But he is a bitter person and it is obvious to many on this forum by the tones of his posts. Your self control transcends his by quite a lot. I can debate with you, and even when it gets hot; after it's all over. I never hold any offense or malice towards you. Your retorts are usually laced with an underlyng humor which makes me dislike myself for some of the things I say to you. But with Bb, it seems as if he just hates. I find it hard to forgive and forget where he is concerned. You don't have to agree with me about this. But he seriously has a problem. I don't believe and agree with everybody on their tenets and what Diety they choose, but I don't spit out hate and vitreol about it. He holds a grudge forever it seems.

Jungle Jim
User ID: 8332933 Apr 18th 11:28 AM
By the way, I am not discussing this any further. Please talk about saxophones. (Preferably C saxophones, if possible). DONE!

ukebert
User ID: 7921973 Apr 18th 2:38 PM
Very sorry to see you go Bb.

I'll try and talk about saxophones more too, except in the good natured banter section.

Captain Muggles
User ID: 8945823 Apr 18th 4:40 PM
Bb....Get well soon! Seek treatment. Saxophones forever. And now On with the Show!!!!

Connman
User ID: 1689844 Apr 18th 5:28 PM
You sad lot of grumpy C Melody enthusiasts. "You ain't nothin' but hound dog (s).."
Capt.Bb I hope you keep watching and make a return one day. I'll keep that groovy photo on file. Thanks for all the excellent imput you have made.

Mr. Debunk
User ID: 1689844 Apr 18th 6:36 PM
I think of myself as a Christian, but I'll side with a free thinker. Good (only one o)on you Bb!

Ken Uk
User ID: 1689844 Apr 18th 6:57 PM
Captain Bb. Please just take just a short break. The place won't be the same without you. I'm sure most watchers sympathise with your personal stance regarding a philosophy or not of life. Ignore the "holier than thou" thoughts.
You lot over there on the other side of the pond: just let people be and stop getting so het up. What's the matter? Are you insecure? Seems that way. Lighten up. Cool it. Believe in what you will. I agree with you're belief, but I'd stand to the hilt with an atheist who feels forced by fananics. I suspect that many atheists would fight for the "rebel" Jesus. End.

Ken Uk
User ID: 1689844 Apr 18th 7:03 PM
your belief,

Captain Muggles
User ID: 8945823 Apr 18th 8:29 PM
Ken Uk - Connman - Mr. Debunk.... My God man. With all your aliases, don't you realize your just talking to and answering yourself? Get a grip! What's the point. You are just dragging this crap out and traveling farther away from saxophone and C melody info posts. I believe in letting live and let live. I don't put Bb down for his beliefs. I just abhor his hateful way of badgering those who don't agree with him. If you think his horrible treatment of Doc Frazier is justifiable. Then you are full of s**t, no matter what side of the pond you live on. Suck that up!

Jeff Frazier
User ID: 0352454 Apr 18th 10:45 PM
I appreciate the comments from both sides (and both sides of the pond) but it is time to end this discussion now. You can only beat a dead horse so long. Let's get this group back to the thing we love so much....C melodies.

HIS servant,
Jeff "Doc" Frazier

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Angela Louison User ID: 0464054	Apr 10th 1:20 PM Sorry to be bothersome...this is sort of a follow-up to my last post. I've been doing some research, found loads of information almost all of which was really confusing, and then went to E-bay (I know, buyer beware). Anyone have anything to say about these auctions? All clinkers, what I should be willing to pay, ANYTHING. The last in particular is the one I'm most interested. Thanks in advance for any advice...it's so appreciated. auctions #250101339009, #330106643781, #230114252997 and #140106172866.
alan (uk) User ID: 8200143	Apr 17th 5:17 PM Yes, lets get back to music please, but Wade - would you please stop alluding to "non-believers" ? Sort of implies that your faith is the only true belief - that's all I have to say. We're all believers, just in different things. That expression does wind me up, the local churches here use it "to death" as well - then they wonder why we think of them as smug and elitist 'Nuff said. I really prefer discussing saxophones.............
Castaway User ID: 9182423	Apr 17th 6:09 PM Sometimes you guys scare me. This stuff is much too deep. But then again, this thread is titled Opinions. So I guess it's alright. Although things do get a bit testy and doenright hostile at times.
WW2 User ID: 8973393	Apr 17th 6:18 PM Alan (uk), I will try to use non-christian if that is acceptable. Back to saxophones, I took my Buescher out of the case and started playing it again after spending most of my time the last few months with my Conn C-Mel. I was immediately greated with a feeling like slipping into an old, comfortable set of clothes. The Buescher fell under my fingers in the accustomed places and the notes fell from the sax with ease. I didn't realize how hard I had been working on the Conn. Don't get me wrong, this is not a negative comment against the Conn, for I believe that the work I am doing with the Conn just indicates that it needs regulation. Afterall, it is the Conn that I got from Roger after he had extensive work done to the saxophone. I used the same Morgan mouthpiece that Roger supplied with the Conn, so the difference was not in the mouthpieces. Mostly the difference was in the sound. The Buescher was sweet, melodic and polite. The Conn was more brash, in your face, with a bit more edge. So I really have two different axes to use in different venues. Guess which one is headed for the streets in the annual Temecula Star-Spangled Fourth parade in July!
alan (uk) User ID: 8200143	Apr 17th 8:05 PM Yes, Roger did struggle with that Conn. I don't know that the old (W1) curved neck Conns are that amazing. Stacey always had problems with his, whereas Steve is happy (until the new one..). I find the newer (W2) Conns - like Mugsy's and JJ's better to play - albeit (for me) with a replacement curved neck. Buescher has a very different feel and sound from from Conn, chalk and cheese. You should also try a well set up Martin and/or King if you have the chance, they both feel and play differently again - each with characters of their own. Horses for courses..... And why not ?
Captain Beeflat User ID: 1738604	Apr 18th 4:06 AM Simpy a swansong for those who cannot understand. Captain Beeflat is a twist on the Name Captain Beefhart...obvious to most. "Doc" however is a conceited self gratifying title worthy of a mountibank. No PhD was ever granted for spanner wielding...perhaps it is different in the swamplands. He claims it to be a nickname (which speaks volumes about his peers)..would he have hung onto Stinker or Ginger? J.J Your unqualified tirade clearly shews that you need treatment urgently...and you accuse ME of being vitriolic! Various god botherers...there is no proof of your claims. We pragmatists and realists therefore are not "non- believers" as you smugly put it; you are "the gullible". To my old friends on this site, bye bye. I shall stick to my Bb tenor...
Castaway User ID: 9725373	Apr 18th 7:12 AM Captain Beefhart and Your Magic Band: Your last post shows your unhealthy obsession with disdain for Doc Frazier. As a fairly new poster on this forum, dare I say: "Good Riddance to Bad Rubbish". Maybe guys like me can now come to this forum and get some useful information on saxophones, instead of the ravings of a Hate Monger.
alan (uk) User ID: 8200143	Apr 18th 8:56 AM Castaway - go to websites like mine (cmelodysax.co.uk) for info, forums are mostly 'soapbox alley' - especially where there is no registration and posters use pseudonyms..... Although I must admit that this one can get a bit 'over the top' at times, makes saxontheweb look positively civilised.. I, for one, will in future only contribute occasional relevant 'musical' dialogue to this forum, because I do believe that it's a "C Melody Saxophone forum" ? I'll drink to that.
Jungle Jim User ID: 8332933	Apr 18th 9:16 AM Captain Be Fart - Ahh, smell the fresh air. Like they say in the U. S. Marine Corps, when something good happens: "Oooorah". Don't let the proverbial door hit you in the arse on the way out.
alan (uk) User ID: 8200143	Apr 18th 10:06 AM I can feel the standards dropping again.....
Jungle Jim User ID: 8332933	Apr 18th 10:44 AM Alan (uk) - I know a lot of us, and that definitely includes me, tend to get weird at times. But Bb has a very mean nasty way about him. He brings out the worst in me. I'm sorry if I offend you by mocking him. But he is a bitter person and it is obvious to many on this forum by the tones of his posts. Your self control transcends his by quite a lot. I can debate with you, and even when it gets hot; after it's all over. I never hold any offense or malice towards you. Your retorts are usually laced with an underlyng humor which makes me dislike myself for some of the things I say to you. But with Bb, it seems as if he just hates. I find it hard to forgive and forget where he is concerned. You don't have to agree with me about this. But he seriously has a problem. I don't believe and agree with everybody on their tenets and what Diety they choose, but I don't spit out hate and vitreol about it. He holds a grudge forever it seems.
Jungle Jim User ID: 8332933	Apr 18th 11:28 AM By the way, I am not discussing this any further. Please talk about saxophones. (Preferably C saxophones, if possible). DONE!
ukebert User ID: 7921973	Apr 18th 2:38 PM Very sorry to see you go Bb. I'll try and talk about saxophones more too, except in the good natured banter section.
Captain Muggles User ID: 8945823	Apr 18th 4:40 PM Bb....Get well soon! Seek treatment. Saxophones forever. And now On with the Show!!!!
Connman User ID: 1689844	Apr 18th 5:28 PM You sad lot of grumpy C Melody enthusiasts. "You ain't nothin' but hound dog (s).." Capt.Bb I hope you keep watching and make a return one day. I'll keep that groovy photo on file. Thanks for all the excellent imput you have made.
Mr. Debunk User ID: 1689844	Apr 18th 6:36 PM I think of myself as a Christian, but I'll side with a free thinker. Good (only one o)on you Bb!
Ken Uk User ID: 1689844	Apr 18th 6:57 PM Captain Bb. Please just take just a short break. The place won't be the same without you. I'm sure most watchers sympathise with your personal stance regarding a philosophy or not of life. Ignore the "holier than thou" thoughts. You lot over there on the other side of the pond: just let people be and stop getting so het up. What's the matter? Are you insecure? Seems that way. Lighten up. Cool it. Believe in what you will. I agree with you're belief, but I'd stand to the hilt with an atheist who feels forced by fananics. I suspect that many atheists would fight for the "rebel" Jesus. End.
Ken Uk User ID: 1689844	Apr 18th 7:03 PM your belief,
Captain Muggles User ID: 8945823	Apr 18th 8:29 PM Ken Uk - Connman - Mr. Debunk.... My God man. With all your aliases, don't you realize your just talking to and answering yourself? Get a grip! What's the point. You are just dragging this crap out and traveling farther away from saxophone and C melody info posts. I believe in letting live and let live. I don't put Bb down for his beliefs. I just abhor his hateful way of badgering those who don't agree with him. If you think his horrible treatment of Doc Frazier is justifiable. Then you are full of s**t, no matter what side of the pond you live on. Suck that up!
Jeff Frazier User ID: 0352454	Apr 18th 10:45 PM I appreciate the comments from both sides (and both sides of the pond) but it is time to end this discussion now. You can only beat a dead horse so long. Let's get this group back to the thing we love so much....C melodies. HIS servant, Jeff "Doc" Frazier