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Captain Beeflat
User ID: 1738604 Jun 22nd 9:23 AM
As suggested by another poster, I am opening this thread for general chatter on any subject.
Those with no social skills, the grumpy, they who feel inclined to hide their background, they who still live with their mother, the anti social, they who never go out, those who know it all, those who contribute nothing but moans, those who tell us how to behave, the self opinionated, and the Oh, so serious, please feel free not to contribute.

J R Montrose
User ID: 9711993 Jun 26th 7:20 PM
Castaway/ Glad you remembered. thanks for the compliment. Ira is alive and well and living in Coral Gables, Florida. I live in New York. I was born here in America. You are thinking of Bobby Jasper as far as being Belgian. But I am the guy you saw in Philly in 1962. Looking forward to reminiscing with you. Ira is still playing his butt off.

alan (uk)
User ID: 0651814 Jun 27th 12:12 AM
J R Montrose - welcome, your reputation precedes you, we even got Blue Note this side of the Atlantic.

Ira must be approaching 80, and still playing strong!

Guwapo
User ID: 9363883 Jun 27th 3:05 AM
This monsoon storm we have just had is the worste storm in England since records began. The equivalent of 2 months rain well in 24 hours, 2,400 people have been made homeless, homes and businesses destroyed, chaos on the roads and railways, schools destroyed or at the least closed, acres of land under water, electricity cut off, dams burst. And do you know what, our Prime Minister has not ever been near, I don't think he even knows its happened, he is so self important and thinking about his place history, he is just me, me me.

Captain Beeflat
User ID: 1738604 Jun 27th 4:57 AM
It seems obvious that,to heat our houses, we should use heat pumps; any temperature above absolute zero (-273 degrees C) contains heat. The idea is to suck low grade heat from anywhere...rivers...garden...loft, push it through a fridge working in reverse and voila, the world is cooler and your house is heated.
Gigged my newly re-padded Grassi tenor last night, gorgeous horn...and nothing fell off it.

Captain Beeflat
User ID: 1738604 Jun 27th 7:04 AM
Wade.
Working in exp. departments of the Motor Industry during the 60's, we were heavily involved in your Californian Exhaust Emissions programme. A vast ammount of work just because they built Los Angeles (Spelling?) in the wrong place.:-).
The concern then was to reduce the poisonous gases...CO, unburnt hydrocarbons and oxides of nitrogen. The Holy Grail was to reach the unobtainable (as we then thought) in that the exhaust produced only water and CO2.
Now that we have achieved this, the anti car lobby moan about the CO2.
This is the job of trees which absorb CO2 and produce Oxygen...nature's lungs.
By cutting down the rain forests we are reducing nature's lung capacity. To exacerbate the problem, the cleared areas are given over to farmland, filled with farting cattle... producing CH4 (methane). As a greenhouse gas, methane is 25 times more effective than CO2.
Yet, those in power(and grey suits) find it convenient to blame the car when it's pollution is insignificant compared with farm animals....yet the eco nasties would have us riding horses...how illogical is that? Face it, with the advent of the car, and total freedom, only the poor will use smelly public transport.
Why also does the 4x4 come in for so much criticism from the ill-advised, thin lipped harridan Guardian readers. The inefficiency of driving all four wheels is increased by a minimal degree...and most 4x4 have all four wheels driven only when the "regular" driven wheels spin.
There, I feel better now. :-)

jazzbug1
User ID: 1836024 Jun 27th 7:54 AM
I love the British wit: the sarcastic edge, the pun, the ability to laugh at the Royal Family The queen is really a grand old lady with a sense of duty and behavior, but most of the rest belong in a low end industry (Indian saxophones?)
My favorite Britcom is "Faulty Towers". Perhaps Alan and his friends could produce a show about a C Melody saxophonist. It would be one hour a week showing him sitting at home alone, fondling his horn, waiting in vain by the telephone for the big call.

Captain Beeflat
User ID: 1738604 Jun 27th 8:13 AM
jazzbug.
Some of your Countrymen say that they do not understand the English sense of humour...you are one of the few exceptions. It is really a matter of not taking yourself too seriously...as simple as that.
I would be interested in your views on "Monty Python's Flying Circus"; surely the very apotheosis of so called English humour. My guess is that you love it.
By the way...Why are Indian saxophones our responsibility?...or perhaps I mis-read you.

alan (uk)
User ID: 0651814 Jun 27th 9:25 AM
jb1 "sitting at home alone, fondling his horn..." ?

What I do in the privacy of my own home, is my business.... ;-))

jazzbug1
User ID: 1836024 Jun 27th 10:53 AM
Fondling saxophones was first investigated by Freud. It frequently involves adults, who through a spelling-related dyslexia in adolescence, thought "sex" to be spelled "sax" and became involved, in an abnormal way, with their horns. Those who lust for senior citizens are inclined to focus on the C Melody. This leads me to believe that many of the beautiful, innocent old horns that I painstakingly restore and sell on Ebay are not played, but are instead shipped to the UK to be used as sax slaves. A pity. Yes: I enjoy "Python". Furthermore, I view the production of Indian saxophones as being the lowest work position in the world, except perhaps for creating SPAM.

jazzbug1
User ID: 1836024 Jun 27th 10:56 AM
Tony Blair was OK, but I preferred his sister, Linda, as the little girl in "The Exorcist."

alan (uk)
User ID: 0651814 Jun 27th 11:06 AM
jb1 - I find dark bronze vintage lacquer most 'fondlable', it exudes a warmth seldom found in humans, closely followed by bare brass.

I'm afraid that silver, whilst looking good and playing just fine, leaves me cold and unemotional..... :-((

Blair ? I think the "Blair Witch Project" summed up his effect on most of us.

Guwapo, 'Tone' is busy sorting out his new job as International Envoy to the Middle East, to bother about us any more - let's see if 'Gordo' shows up in Leeds ? Hmmm, I won't hold my breath !

Captain Beeflat
User ID: 1738604 Jun 27th 11:52 AM
Jazzbug.
With the C Melody being focused at senior citizens, are you implying that the size of the bell plays an intrinsic part in your research?
We have yet to learn why we, the English, are, in your eyes, responsible for Indian saxophones. Indian motorcycles were OK despite having the twist-grip on the wrong side.

jazzbug1
User ID: 1836024 Jun 27th 12:18 PM
Perhaps at our age, the curved soprano would work best. I once saw an Indian made Royal Enfield 500cc Bullet. It appeared nice, but I didn't ride it. I much preferred the workmanship and finish on my Matchless G80. Maybe I owe my British humor to vibration-related brain damage from riding a British 500 single for 18 years. Do the Indians still make the old pattern motorcycles?
In response to your controls comment: Yes, I am twisted, but sometimes I get a grip.

jazzbug1
User ID: 1836024 Jun 27th 1:24 PM
I just turned in Wendy's Restaurants to the Veterans of Foreign Wars for insulting the army led by Charles DeGaulle during the recent war. Their salad dressing was most insulting, being labelled, "Fat Free French".
Furthermore, I am suing Feel-Rite Health Food Stores for my medical problem: Brewer's Yeast Infection. Please note that I am intent on making up for my recent informative statements.

Captain Beeflat
User ID: 1738604 Jun 27th 2:19 PM
Alan.
Apologies for talking about saxophones on this thread, but you mentioned that lovely dark bronze patina that occurs on vintage lacquer.
We have an old ornate copper kettle that has been in the family for yonks. It has a brass handle and brass knob on the lid. I can remember that my grandmother used to polish it....I don't. It is not lacquered and has been sitting in my hearth for about 12 years. The strange thing is that it now assumed that lovely dark bronze colour....both the copper and the brass being indistinguishable.
Why is this?...did the brass in about 1800 have a higher copper content?
Based on the colour of the kettle, my bare brass Grassi should now be bronze....but it is green; like a jazzer's Mk6...if you will pardon the expression.

alan (uk)
User ID: 0651814 Jun 27th 2:32 PM
Lewis - green ? Oh dear - I did say that I hadn't tested the 'yoghurt theory' personally......

This topic has more twists and turns than Blair's retirement speech(es) !

Captain Beeflat
User ID: 1738604 Jun 27th 2:46 PM
Alan.
No, the effect of the yoghurt washed off....the horn is that faint green colour all over.
This topic is only five days old and it is already up to 52 posts...there must have been a need for it.
Anyway...why is the unlacquered brass handle bronze and my Grassi of the same material, green. We expect you to know these things. Could it perhaps be due to the fact that it is Italian, with a high vermicelli content? :-)

Cool Runnin' Man
User ID: 9725373 Jun 27th 9:05 PM
Wow - J R Montrose. What a Gas. That guy is a Fierce Tenor Player. He teaches and plays. What an aggressive style he has. I love him. You just never know who you will find visiting this forum.

alan (uk)
User ID: 0651814 Jun 28th 7:48 AM
wasn't the word for green corrosion on copper, something like "verdigris" ? Starts the same as "vermicelli" !

Of course there's a need for inspired lunacy, and slightly surreal debate, the world would be a sadder place without it....

'Cool'- I used to get confused between the two tenor players JR Montrose and Jack Montrose (now sadly deceased) - I've even seen 'JR' printed as JR Monterose, with an extra 'e'.

(but I do know the difference now, before anyone explains...)

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Captain Beeflat User ID: 1738604	Jun 22nd 9:23 AM As suggested by another poster, I am opening this thread for general chatter on any subject. Those with no social skills, the grumpy, they who feel inclined to hide their background, they who still live with their mother, the anti social, they who never go out, those who know it all, those who contribute nothing but moans, those who tell us how to behave, the self opinionated, and the Oh, so serious, please feel free not to contribute.
J R Montrose User ID: 9711993	Jun 26th 7:20 PM Castaway/ Glad you remembered. thanks for the compliment. Ira is alive and well and living in Coral Gables, Florida. I live in New York. I was born here in America. You are thinking of Bobby Jasper as far as being Belgian. But I am the guy you saw in Philly in 1962. Looking forward to reminiscing with you. Ira is still playing his butt off.
alan (uk) User ID: 0651814	Jun 27th 12:12 AM J R Montrose - welcome, your reputation precedes you, we even got Blue Note this side of the Atlantic. Ira must be approaching 80, and still playing strong!
Guwapo User ID: 9363883	Jun 27th 3:05 AM This monsoon storm we have just had is the worste storm in England since records began. The equivalent of 2 months rain well in 24 hours, 2,400 people have been made homeless, homes and businesses destroyed, chaos on the roads and railways, schools destroyed or at the least closed, acres of land under water, electricity cut off, dams burst. And do you know what, our Prime Minister has not ever been near, I don't think he even knows its happened, he is so self important and thinking about his place history, he is just me, me me.
Captain Beeflat User ID: 1738604	Jun 27th 4:57 AM It seems obvious that,to heat our houses, we should use heat pumps; any temperature above absolute zero (-273 degrees C) contains heat. The idea is to suck low grade heat from anywhere...rivers...garden...loft, push it through a fridge working in reverse and voila, the world is cooler and your house is heated. Gigged my newly re-padded Grassi tenor last night, gorgeous horn...and nothing fell off it.
Captain Beeflat User ID: 1738604	Jun 27th 7:04 AM Wade. Working in exp. departments of the Motor Industry during the 60's, we were heavily involved in your Californian Exhaust Emissions programme. A vast ammount of work just because they built Los Angeles (Spelling?) in the wrong place.:-). The concern then was to reduce the poisonous gases...CO, unburnt hydrocarbons and oxides of nitrogen. The Holy Grail was to reach the unobtainable (as we then thought) in that the exhaust produced only water and CO2. Now that we have achieved this, the anti car lobby moan about the CO2. This is the job of trees which absorb CO2 and produce Oxygen...nature's lungs. By cutting down the rain forests we are reducing nature's lung capacity. To exacerbate the problem, the cleared areas are given over to farmland, filled with farting cattle... producing CH4 (methane). As a greenhouse gas, methane is 25 times more effective than CO2. Yet, those in power(and grey suits) find it convenient to blame the car when it's pollution is insignificant compared with farm animals....yet the eco nasties would have us riding horses...how illogical is that? Face it, with the advent of the car, and total freedom, only the poor will use smelly public transport. Why also does the 4x4 come in for so much criticism from the ill-advised, thin lipped harridan Guardian readers. The inefficiency of driving all four wheels is increased by a minimal degree...and most 4x4 have all four wheels driven only when the "regular" driven wheels spin. There, I feel better now. :-)
jazzbug1 User ID: 1836024	Jun 27th 7:54 AM I love the British wit: the sarcastic edge, the pun, the ability to laugh at the Royal Family The queen is really a grand old lady with a sense of duty and behavior, but most of the rest belong in a low end industry (Indian saxophones?) My favorite Britcom is "Faulty Towers". Perhaps Alan and his friends could produce a show about a C Melody saxophonist. It would be one hour a week showing him sitting at home alone, fondling his horn, waiting in vain by the telephone for the big call.
Captain Beeflat User ID: 1738604	Jun 27th 8:13 AM jazzbug. Some of your Countrymen say that they do not understand the English sense of humour...you are one of the few exceptions. It is really a matter of not taking yourself too seriously...as simple as that. I would be interested in your views on "Monty Python's Flying Circus"; surely the very apotheosis of so called English humour. My guess is that you love it. By the way...Why are Indian saxophones our responsibility?...or perhaps I mis-read you.
alan (uk) User ID: 0651814	Jun 27th 9:25 AM jb1 "sitting at home alone, fondling his horn..." ? What I do in the privacy of my own home, is my business.... ;-))
jazzbug1 User ID: 1836024	Jun 27th 10:53 AM Fondling saxophones was first investigated by Freud. It frequently involves adults, who through a spelling-related dyslexia in adolescence, thought "sex" to be spelled "sax" and became involved, in an abnormal way, with their horns. Those who lust for senior citizens are inclined to focus on the C Melody. This leads me to believe that many of the beautiful, innocent old horns that I painstakingly restore and sell on Ebay are not played, but are instead shipped to the UK to be used as sax slaves. A pity. Yes: I enjoy "Python". Furthermore, I view the production of Indian saxophones as being the lowest work position in the world, except perhaps for creating SPAM.
jazzbug1 User ID: 1836024	Jun 27th 10:56 AM Tony Blair was OK, but I preferred his sister, Linda, as the little girl in "The Exorcist."
alan (uk) User ID: 0651814	Jun 27th 11:06 AM jb1 - I find dark bronze vintage lacquer most 'fondlable', it exudes a warmth seldom found in humans, closely followed by bare brass. I'm afraid that silver, whilst looking good and playing just fine, leaves me cold and unemotional..... :-(( Blair ? I think the "Blair Witch Project" summed up his effect on most of us. Guwapo, 'Tone' is busy sorting out his new job as International Envoy to the Middle East, to bother about us any more - let's see if 'Gordo' shows up in Leeds ? Hmmm, I won't hold my breath !
Captain Beeflat User ID: 1738604	Jun 27th 11:52 AM Jazzbug. With the C Melody being focused at senior citizens, are you implying that the size of the bell plays an intrinsic part in your research? We have yet to learn why we, the English, are, in your eyes, responsible for Indian saxophones. Indian motorcycles were OK despite having the twist-grip on the wrong side.
jazzbug1 User ID: 1836024	Jun 27th 12:18 PM Perhaps at our age, the curved soprano would work best. I once saw an Indian made Royal Enfield 500cc Bullet. It appeared nice, but I didn't ride it. I much preferred the workmanship and finish on my Matchless G80. Maybe I owe my British humor to vibration-related brain damage from riding a British 500 single for 18 years. Do the Indians still make the old pattern motorcycles? In response to your controls comment: Yes, I am twisted, but sometimes I get a grip.
jazzbug1 User ID: 1836024	Jun 27th 1:24 PM I just turned in Wendy's Restaurants to the Veterans of Foreign Wars for insulting the army led by Charles DeGaulle during the recent war. Their salad dressing was most insulting, being labelled, "Fat Free French". Furthermore, I am suing Feel-Rite Health Food Stores for my medical problem: Brewer's Yeast Infection. Please note that I am intent on making up for my recent informative statements.
Captain Beeflat User ID: 1738604	Jun 27th 2:19 PM Alan. Apologies for talking about saxophones on this thread, but you mentioned that lovely dark bronze patina that occurs on vintage lacquer. We have an old ornate copper kettle that has been in the family for yonks. It has a brass handle and brass knob on the lid. I can remember that my grandmother used to polish it....I don't. It is not lacquered and has been sitting in my hearth for about 12 years. The strange thing is that it now assumed that lovely dark bronze colour....both the copper and the brass being indistinguishable. Why is this?...did the brass in about 1800 have a higher copper content? Based on the colour of the kettle, my bare brass Grassi should now be bronze....but it is green; like a jazzer's Mk6...if you will pardon the expression.
alan (uk) User ID: 0651814	Jun 27th 2:32 PM Lewis - green ? Oh dear - I did say that I hadn't tested the 'yoghurt theory' personally...... This topic has more twists and turns than Blair's retirement speech(es) !
Captain Beeflat User ID: 1738604	Jun 27th 2:46 PM Alan. No, the effect of the yoghurt washed off....the horn is that faint green colour all over. This topic is only five days old and it is already up to 52 posts...there must have been a need for it. Anyway...why is the unlacquered brass handle bronze and my Grassi of the same material, green. We expect you to know these things. Could it perhaps be due to the fact that it is Italian, with a high vermicelli content? :-)
Cool Runnin' Man User ID: 9725373	Jun 27th 9:05 PM Wow - J R Montrose. What a Gas. That guy is a Fierce Tenor Player. He teaches and plays. What an aggressive style he has. I love him. You just never know who you will find visiting this forum.
alan (uk) User ID: 0651814	Jun 28th 7:48 AM wasn't the word for green corrosion on copper, something like "verdigris" ? Starts the same as "vermicelli" ! Of course there's a need for inspired lunacy, and slightly surreal debate, the world would be a sadder place without it.... 'Cool'- I used to get confused between the two tenor players JR Montrose and Jack Montrose (now sadly deceased) - I've even seen 'JR' printed as JR Monterose, with an extra 'e'. (but I do know the difference now, before anyone explains...)