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Jukka Perko
User ID: 0651814
Jun 4th 10:46 AM
Hi everybody!
I am looking for a vintage Goldbeck metal mouthpiece for C-melody. If you happen to have one you want to sell or know where to find one please email me <jukka.perko@viapori.fi>
mossite
User ID: 8061053
Jun 4th 11:50 AM
I have a realy old Goldbeck mouthpiece in great shape. I'm not sure if it is a C-Melody or a Tenor mouthpiece. It is shorter than a modern Tenor mouthpiece and taller than an alto mouthpiece.
Do you know how long a Goldbeck C-Melody mouthpiece is? It has a B on the site and the patent number underneeth this.
I could send you some pictures.
Jukka Perko
User ID: 0651814
Jun 4th 8:21 PM
In fact I donīt know how long the Goldbeck C-mel piece is...It is hard to tell by comparing to modern pieces, for example an old Otto Link Master tenor mouthpiece is much shorter than a modern Link Super Tone Master for tenor.
I wonder if anybody that has a Goldbeck C-mel piece could tell us the lenght of it...?
Pics are welcome!
Doc Frazier
User ID: 0568574
Jun 5th 3:08 PM
If it has a B on the side, it is a tenor. The C melody version had a C on it. Someone decided they needed mine more than I did(stolen)! Mossite...what would you want for your B m/piece?
Yours in CHRIST, Doc
Alan (UK)
User ID: 8200143
Jun 5th 5:04 PM
Wierd - I have a metal 20's Goldbeck (came on a C-Mel I bought), which is small in size and shank diameter, so looks 'alto size', and has what I always took to be an engraved '8' above the 'PAT.FEB.10 1920' on the side. No sign of an 'A' for Alto.
The lay is too small to be a normal '8', so does that make it a 'B', and mine a tenor ?
mossite
User ID: 1091134
Jun 6th 1:37 AM
@ Alan,
it is a B and not a 8. It took me a while to figure that out.
I have a real good mouthpiece builder and refacer over here. He told me, that the Goldbeck mouthpieces are realy great vintage mpc. He said, what Otto Link is for the east coast, Goldbeck was for west or something like that.
He said, these mouthpiece are extremly well made and great sounding.
Doc, make me an offer I cannot refuse :).I can send you pictures.
mosplace@lycos.de
Alan (UK)
User ID: 8200143
Jun 6th 5:46 AM
Mo/Doc - Thanks for that. I hadn't ever used it, but now I check, a tenor reed is perfect width for the lay & tip - except that the mpc really is physically short, so the reed extends almost as far as the end of the shank !
This would make an ideal C-Mel mpc for the Conn straight-necks, no problems with getting it onto the cork far enough.
Jukka Perko
User ID: 0965344
Jun 9th 1:32 PM
So, if there is anybody that has one with those with C on the side I would be definitely interested. BTW, have you guys any experience on Goldbeck soprano pieces?
Doc Frazier
User ID: 0568574
Jun 12th 3:17 PM
JP.....I play a Goldbeck on my 1925 Pan American curved soprano when we do an outdoor gig. It works really well with a Bari brand read. I have recently found a Goldbeck Bass sax m/piece. Heaviest m/piece I have ever seen!
musically HIS, Doc
Alan (UK)
User ID: 8200143
Jun 13th 3:51 AM
JP - you may styruggle to find a C-Mel Goldbeck, or anyone willing to part with one. I think you'll find that (because it is relatively small dimensioned) a tenor version will give good intonation on a C-Mel.
I'll add it to my 'never ending' list of projects to check mt temor one on a C-Mel. What C-Mel do you play, or would maybe be using it on ?
Jukka Perko
User ID: 0965344
Jun 16th 4:26 AM
Alan- you are right. It will be difficult to find a Golbeck for C-mel. So, I will keep my eye on the tenor pieces too. Unfortunately I do not have a C-mel. at the moment but I have had Buescher and straight neck Conn previously. I am planning to buy a Martin (I play Martin alto and soprano and I can say I am a real Martin maniac). My friend has a silver plated Martin (serial 40 xxx) he maybe wants to sell. I canītīreally try it first because it needs a complete overhaul to be playable: But I have so good experiences on sopranos and altos that I trust Martinīs are great c-mels too. And I have read you prefer your Martin to all the c-mels you have...? I have dreamed to buy a gold plated Martin c-mel, but you do not see those for sale too often. I have many gold plated Martin altos (Handcraft and Committee II in burnished gold and special engravings and Imperial) and my Handcraft in satin gold plate is the best soprano I have ever played, and I can say I have tried many brands and models.
Lewis Pelham.
User ID: 9865253
Jun 16th 11:48 AM
On the subject of mouthpieces, I wonder if, in vintage times, there was the degree of variance and scatter that seems to be prevalent with modern pieces.
I have wound up with two, apparently identical, Otto-Link Super Tone Masters yet they are as different as chalk & cheese. One is glorious & the other is virtually un-playable.
Jukka Perko
User ID: 2783734
Jun 24th 5:49 AM
Doc, if you are interested in trading your Goldbeck soprano to some other vintage hard rubber piece, please let me know.
Doc Frazier
User ID: 0568574
Jun 24th 8:02 PM
what do you have?
Jukka Perko
User ID: 2783734
Jun 25th 3:55 AM
I have following hard rubber soprano mouthpieces to trade:
HR Selmer Soloist style D (on back)
- 20īs vintage Martin
- 50īs vintage Martin
- 20īs Vintage Conn.
I have also some vintage alto pieces to trade.
Les Ford
User ID: 8764373
Sep 28th 1:17 AM
The Goldbeck mouthpiece has a special fitted silver ligature. It is on this silver ligature that the "C" appears. The mouthpiece itself has a "3" above the patent date of Feb 10, 1920. Someone might confuse the 3 for a B or an 8 and the date for a serial number. It is also possible that it is an 8 and not a 3 although the stamping is quite clear on mine. It is definitely not a B.
It also has stamped on the piece :
"Goldbeck LTD
Makers
Chicago
I like this mouthpiece but I have never tried it with a different ligature because this one is so obviously made for it. The ligature locks into grooves in the mouthpiece so it cannot twist about.
As has been mentioned it is quite closed, but it is finely made, and the fact that is made of what looks like german silver has contributed to keeping the rails sharp and clean over the years.
I think that both Mossite and Alan both have Goldbeck C Melody mouthpieces, but are missing the fitted ligature with the C on it.
Let me know if you are still looking for pictures.
Jim Romain
User ID: 0889114
Dec 2nd 8:56 AM
Jukka,
I'm looking for a Selmer 'D' soprano soloist--let me know if you still have yours, and if you're interested in selling. I may have trades of interet to you.
JR
Amaury
User ID: 9092003
Dec 10th 5:10 PM
Gostaria de saber como adquirir um sax melody em C. Aqui no Brazil não existe este tipo de saxofone.
Grato,
Amaury
He/she would like to know as to acquire a sax melody Here in C. in Brazil this saxophone type it doesn't exist.
Thankful,
WW2
User ID: 8973393
Dec 13th 6:21 PM
For a new C-Melody, contact Aquilasax.com and see if they ship to Brazil.
For a vintage c-Melody, try eBay but make sure the seller will ship to Brazil.
Good luck!
Jeff Frazier '08
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